Kedro VS orchest

Interesting, thanks for sharing. I'll definitely take a look, although at this point I am so comfortable with Snakemake, it is a bit hard to imagine what would convince me to move to another tool. But I like the idea of composable pipelines: I am building a tool (too early to share) that would allow to lay Snakemake pipelines on top of each other using semi-automatic data annotations similar to how it is done in kedro (https://github.com/kedro-org/kedro).

# pyproject.toml [project] dependencies = [ "kedro @ git+https://github.com/kedro-org/kedro@3ea7231", "kedro-datasets[pandas.CSVDataSet,polars.CSVDataSet] @ git+https://github.com/kedro-org/kedro-plugins@3b42fae#subdirectory=kedro-datasets", ]

So there's 2 sides to pipeline management: the actual definition of the pipelines (in code) and how/when/where you run them. Some tools like prefect or airflow do both of them at once, but for the actual pipeline definition I'm a fan of https://kedro.org. You can then use most available orchestrators to run those pipelines on whatever schedule and architecture you want.

We have set up a milestone on GitHub so you can check in on our progress and contribute if you want to. To suggest features to us, report bugs, or just see what we're working on right now, visit the Kedro projects on GitHub.

you could use a project framework like kedro to force you to be more disciplined about how you structure your projects. I'd also recommend checking out this book: Edna Ridge - Guerrilla Analytics: A Practical Approach to Working with Data

Recently I started a position as Developer Advocate for Kedro, an opinionated data science framework, and one of the things we're doing is exploring what are the best open source tools we can use to create our documentation.

You can also check out Kedro, it’s like the Flask for data science projects and helps apply clean code principles to data science code.

An often overlooked framework used by NASA among others is Kedro https://github.com/kedro-org/kedro. Kedro is probably the simplest set of abstractions for building pipelines but it doesn't attempt to kill Airflow. It even has an Airflow plugin that allows it to be used as a DSL for building Airflow pipelines or plug into whichever production orchestration system is needed.

You can check out our OSS https://github.com/orchest/orchest

The code example is part of our ELT/data pipeline tool called Orchest: https://github.com/orchest/orchest/

First want to say congrats to the Patterns team for creating a gorgeous looking tool. Very minimal and approachable. Massive kudos!

Disclaimer: we're building something very similar and I'm curious about a couple of things.

One of the questions our users have asked us often is how to minimize the dependence on "product specific" components/nodes/steps. For example, if you write CI for GitHub Actions you may use a bunch of GitHub Action references.

Looking at the `graph.yml` in some of the examples you shared you use a similar approach (e.g. patterns/openai-completion@v4). That means that whenever you depend on such components your automation/data pipeline becomes more tied to the specific tool (GitHub Actions/Patterns), effectively locking in users.

How are you helping users feel comfortable with that problem (I don't want to invest in something that's not portable)? It's something we've struggled with ourselves as we're expanding the "out of the box" capabilities you get.

Furthermore, would have loved to see this as an open source project. But I guess the second best thing to open source is some open source contributions and `dcp` and `common-model` look quite interesting!

For those who are curious, I'm one of the authors of https://github.com/orchest/orchest

Haven't tried it. In its favor, Argo is vendor neutral and is really easy to set up in a local k8s environment like docker for desktop or minikube. If you already use k8s for configuration, service discovery, secret management, etc, it's dead simple to set up and use (avoiding configuration having to learn a whole new workflow configuration language in addition to k8s). The big downside is that it doesn't have a visual DAG editor (although that might be a positive for engineers having to fix workflows written by non-programmers), but the relatively bare-metal nature of Argo means that it's fairly easy to use it as an underlying engine for a more opinionated or lower-code framework (orchest is a notable one out now).

If you’d like to try something for you data workflows that’s vendor agnostic (k8s based) and open source you can check out our project: https://github.com/orchest/orchest

You can find it here: https://github.com/orchest/orchest Convenience install script: https://github.com/orchest/orchest#installation

We automatically provide container level parallelism in Orchest: https://github.com/orchest/orchest

For people in this thread interested in what this tool is an alternative to: Airflow, Luigi, Kubeflow, Kedro, Flyte, Metaflow, Sagemaker Pipelines, GCP Vertex Workbench, Azure Data Factory, Azure ML, Dagster, DVC, ClearML, Prefect, Pachyderm, and Orchest.

Disclaimer: author of Orchest https://github.com/orchest/orchest