Karate VS Selenide

This is why we need better tools which will give benefits for the added complexity. If you need to create both the feature files AND the code, it's just complexity with little benefits. But frameworks like https://github.com/karatelabs/karate or https://github.com/Endava/cats are hiding this complexity and remove the code layer entirely. Which, in my view, this is where you need to be in 2023, particularly for API testing.

- https://insomnia.rest/ - https://hoppscotch.io/ - https://github.com/karatelabs/karate - https://github.com/warmuuh/milkman

Congrats on the launch ! I'm the lead dev of [Karate](https://github.com/karatelabs/karate) and was wondering if you had come across it. I strongly agree that collaboration should be [via Git](https://www.karatelabs.io/first-class-citizens) and the IDE and traditional solutions fall short. I hope Karate's syntax passes your "memory friendly" test :) We get regular feedback is that it is easy to read and even non-programmers can pick it up. One thing I feel we do really well is chaining of HTTP requests. And we have plugins for [IntelliJ](https://plugins.jetbrains.com/plugin/19232-karate) and [VS Code](https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=karatela...).

Maintaining a tool like this as open-source is hard, all the best !

FWIW https://github.com/karatelabs/karate is 83% Java.

We use karate to test our fully integrated graphql backend. Has Gherkin language support.

Try Karate

Take a look at Karate.

TestUI combines 2 different paradigm test automation frameworks, i.e., mobile (Appium) and desktop (Selenide), into one neat framework. In our opinion, it’s a great framework that offers vast functionality with easy-to-learn syntax, not to mention full access to Selenide methods in case something tricky needs to be done.

Selenide – A wrapper for Selenium, Selenide consists of many other tools, including Selenium, WebdriverManager, and BrowserUp Proxy. Selenide is well-organized and comes with good documentation and a large community. It enables you to simplify complex tasks, for example: file download, autostart and autostop of the browser, using a proxy, etc. Though it officially supports only Java, there is also an unofficial port in Python called Selene.

I'd like to add to recommendations for Java with Selenium like stuff: https://selenide.org/ Selenide is a framework that sits on top of Selenium. It makes things so much easier. If you have the opportunity to use it, you can make your life much easier than straight Selenium.

Here it is: Contribute to the open-source Selenideium Element Inspector Chrome Extension, with which test automation teams can save hours daily by automatically generating all the relevant selectors for Selenide, Selenium, Cypress, Playwright, Squish and TestCafe.

After a few weeks, István told me it would be great if I could write some articles. Being an introvert I did not really like the idea , but after 1-2 weeks I was sitting at home in front of my computer on a Sunday afternoon and I started to feel I want to write an article about Selenide, to share with the world how awesome it is.

I would highly recommend not using straight Selenium and instead go to https://selenide.org/. It's a wrapper for Selenium that more often than not prevents you from ever having to worry about writing or maintaining wrappers, and handles most all of the framework needs for you, while still allowing you to very easily dig into the Selenium specific stuff you may need. It's saved me so much time it's ridiculous to even consider using straight Selenium anymore, if you have Java as an option.

Guys you should REALLY PAY ATTENTION to this. This is a free project. I've done TA and it works like magic. No more stale element exceptions and waiters and browser hussle.

Is there a working framework that you use in your daily work? I've written my little framework (Java,TestNG). Simple singleton with a bunch of services (Actions, Robot, Waiters etc). And then I've found this and this. I've tried examples. Google search in both cases. Understood nothing. Read some docs. Didn't benefit. But these guys are right, selenium webdriver is just a webdriver. You have to write a decent amount of wrapper code. I mean. We have a lot of great frameworks almost in any given field, but when it comes to testing there is no "out of the box" running fw. Hell. You can get a fully-running web-site in a day using Laravel or Spring Boot.