Juju VS swarmpit

Basically juju is used to deploy microservices, and other stuff too: https://juju.is/

Juju https://juju.is/

https://juju.is/

Each app is packaged in a charm which seems to be a yaml declaring inputs, dependencies and other meta data and optional python code that can respond to certain lifecycle hooks

https://discourse.charmhub.io/t/implementing-relations/1051

   name: my-node-app

I am currently working myself through setting up our new Research GPU-Cluster where we have "sort of" managed to deploy MAAS to manage all the servers more efficiently, and on top of MAAS then use Juju to deploy the further components of the cluster. The components here are

Kubernetes Custom Resources were created to allow the Kubernetes API to be extended for domain-specific logic, by defining new resource types and controllers. OSS frameworks like operator-sdk, kubebuilder and juju were created to simplify the creation of custom resources and their controllers. Tools built with these frameworks came to be known as Operators.

Depending on what you're trying to accomplish, Juju and MAAS, if not just automate with preseed for custom desktops.

At Canonical I work on two open-source projects written in Go: Juju, a large cloud-based application deployment tool, and Pebble, a small Linux service manager. Both include CLI clients and API-based server daemons. Juju in particular is a large distributed system.

The new Portainer charm allows users of Canonical’s Charmed Kubernetes distribution to automatically install and integrate Portainer Business as part of the Kubernetes cluster deployment process, using Juju, the Charmed Operator framework.

So I need to setup prometheus, granfana, node exporter, and cadvisor before running this? All of the above give me everything I need to monitor a swarmcluster. And if I want multi-user access to the graphs, I’d configure auth in Grafana.

Further, if I were to monitor Swarm without the Prom+Grafana stack, I’d be looking at:

https://github.com/swarmpit/swarmpit

What is the value-add of Storm?

And then also look at Swarmpit https://github.com/swarmpit/swarmpit. It was last updated Aug 28, 2020 as well, so I don't know how active it is, but I also used it for a while before sticking with Portainer ultimately.

Kubernetes is a bit overkill. For my homegrown usage i use docker swarm. And use https://swarmpit.io to manage it

Specific to swarm but it might help soneone in a way https://github.com/swarmpit/swarmpit

> There is gap in the market between VM oriented simple deployments and kubernetes based setup.

In my experience, there are actually two platforms that do this pretty well.

First, there's Docker Swarm ( https://docs.docker.com/engine/swarm/ ) - it comes preinstalled with Docker, can handle either single machine deployments or clusters, even multi-master deployments. Furthermore, it just adds a few values to Docker Compose YAML format ( https://docs.docker.com/compose/compose-file/compose-file-v3... ) , so it's incredibly easy to launch containers with it. And there are lovely web interfaces, such as Portainer ( https://www.portainer.io/ ) or Swarmpit ( https://swarmpit.io/ ) for simpler management.

Secondly, there's also Hashicorp Nomad ( https://www.nomadproject.io/ ) - it's a single executable package, which allows similar setups to Docker Swarm, integrates nicely with service meshes like Consul ( https://www.consul.io/ ), and also allows non-containerized deployments to be managed, such as Java applications and others ( https://www.nomadproject.io/docs/drivers ). The only serious downsides is having to use the HCL DSL ( https://github.com/hashicorp/hcl ) and their web UI being read only in the last versions that i checked.

There are also some other tools, like CapRover ( https://caprover.com/ ) available, but many of those use Docker Swarm under the hood and i personally haven't used them. Of course, if you still want Kubernetes but implemented in a slightly simpler way, then there's also the Rancher K3s project ( https://k3s.io/ ) which packages the core of Kubernetes into a smaller executable and uses SQLite by default for storage, if i recall correctly. I've used it briefly and the resource usage was indeed far more reasonable than that of full Kubernetes clusters (like RKE).

I believer Portainer and Swarmpit would have this capabilties https://www.portainer.io/ https://github.com/swarmpit/swarmpit