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intercooler-js
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Rage: Fast web framework compatible with Rails
I used HTMX since the intercooler days [0] but the stuff you can make is rather limited. Also you still need the JS to deal with a11y things like expanded state (or hyperscript, apparently).
If you have a lot of components to implement, everything requires thinking.
I really love it for simple applications though. Resist implementing a complicated menu, live notifications, an editable data-table and such non-web-native things and you can create the fastest CRUD app ever.
And you will need another client, but that's not really an issue if your view model does not contain non-public data (it shouldn't), as you can convert it to JSON at the same endpoint and call it an API.
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Htmx is part of the GitHub Accelerator
:) hyperscript came after htmx
htmx is version 2 of intercoolerjs:
which had a proto-scripting language in it, the `ic-action` attribute:
https://intercoolerjs.org/attributes/ic-action
i dropped that attribute (along w/ the jQuery dependency) when I created htmx, but I felt there was some merit to the idea of a lightweight scripting language that abstracted away async behavior. Once htmx had stabilized I revisited the idea, remembered my experience w/ HyperTalk as a young programmer, and decided to take a shot at that, but for the browser.
I'm very happy with how it worked out, although I expect it will always be niche when compared with htmx, which has much broader applicability and isn't as insane looking. :)
to an extent, there was `jQuery.get` but it wasn't tightly integrated with HTML
the original version of htmx was intercooler.js:
released in 2013, and that version depended on jQuery
- Writing JavaScript without a build system
- We're breaking up with JavaScript front ends
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Ask HN: What are your “scratch own itch” projects?
You asked for it:
I hated angular when it first came out and couldn't believe what insanity people were willing to come up with, so long as it came from google. (e.g. GWT) I created https://intercoolerjs.org out of frustration with that, and the lack of progress in HTML/hypermedia in general, so I could build a web application I was working on (https://leaddyno.com, since sold).
When covid hit I took a look back at intercooler and decided that it was really two things: HTML++ and a scripting language, so I split it up into htmx, focused just on the hypermedia angle, and hyperscript, the scripting language I wanted for the web (derived from HyperTalk, and old scripting language from HyperCard on the mac).
I know use them both professionally (email me if you want to use them too.)
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Ask HN: What are some tools / libraries you built yourself?
I created intercooler.js in 2013 so I could do AJAX in HTML:
Last year I removed the jquery dependency and cleaned it up based on a lot of lessons that I learned, renaming it to hmtx:
Same idea: extends/complete HTML as a hypertext so you can build more advanced UI within the original hypermedia web model, and cleaner implementation.
Part of that cleanup involved me pulling out some functionality around events and a proto-scripting language (ic-action), and I enjoy programming languages, so I created a front end scripting language to fill that need:
It's based on HyperTalk and has a lot of domain specific features for lightweight front end scripting, kind of a jQuery or AlpineJS alternative.
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Ask HN: I feel my career is at a dead end. Any advice on what could I do?
This is my experience, and your mileage may vary:
Multiple times in my coding career I have felt stalled and/or like I was regressing.
Early on, I worked on a programming language, gosu (https://gosu-lang.github.io/) which ended up not really going anywhere. Once the work on it was done, I returned to more mundane web programming for a while. A long while after that, and unexpectedly, I turned a jQuery function I was noodling on into intercooler.js (https://intercoolerjs.org/). After a year of that I returned to mundane web programming for quite a while. Unexpectedly, a year ago, the country shut down. I was at home and decided to see if I could remove the jQuery dependency in intercooler.js, and so created htmx (https://htmx.org/). When creating htmx and removing some attribute/functionality, I realized that a small programming language would be the ideal replacement, so I created hyperscript: https://hyperscript.org/. I had not expected to work on a programming language again, but now I am.
So my career has been some very exciting technical projects punctuating long stretches of pretty basic web development, where the most exciting thing is me wondering if I can figure out what the deuce is wrong with my CSS. My takeaway here, at least in my career, is that patience is a virtue, and the interesting stuff tends to come up at irregular intervals and in unexpected moments and ways.
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HTML over-the-wire is the future of Web Development
htmx is the successor to intercooler.js. It swaps parts of the page, not the whole page like Turbolinks. htmx allows you to access AJAX, CSS Transitions, WebSockets and Server Sent Events directly in HTML, using attributes, so you can build modern user interfaces with the simplicity and power of hypertext
gazpacho
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Ask HN: What are some tools / libraries you built yourself?
I've been working on gazpacho [1] for last two years.
It's a general purpose web scraping library for Python that replaces BeautifulSoup + requests for most projects.
Just surpassed ~2K downloads every week!
What are some alternatives?
htmx - </> htmx - high power tools for HTML
selectolax - Python binding to Modest and Lexbor engines (fast HTML5 parser with CSS selectors).
lxml - The lxml XML toolkit for Python
morphdom - Fast and lightweight DOM diffing/patching (no virtual DOM needed)
html5lib - Standards-compliant library for parsing and serializing HTML documents and fragments in Python
xmltodict - Python module that makes working with XML feel like you are working with JSON
xhtml2pdf - A library for converting HTML into PDFs using ReportLab
untangle - Converts XML to Python objects
html-over-the-wire - HTML over the wire: List of frameworks which receive HTML snippets from the server.
bleach - Bleach is an allowed-list-based HTML sanitizing library that escapes or strips markup and attributes
cssutils
pyquery - A jquery-like library for python