ihp VS penrose

I found IHP straightforward:

https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/

despite not remembering much haskell!

This assumes you can get past nix for the install.

I find IHP well-designed. I just wish the licensing scheme were more transparent.

IHP is a batteries-included web framework similar to "ruby on rails" for Haskell, with strong static typing.

The website has lots of information and videos and beginner tutorials.

https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/

In case this got you interested in Haskell, and you want a good way to start your Haskell journey (and have something to apply the optimization handbook to), check out IHP. It's the Rails/Laravel of the Haskell world. You can start here https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/Guide/index.html or check it out on GitHub here https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp

At IHP we've been using Algora for a while now and it works really great. Here's e.g. one PR that was merged last week with a bounty attached https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/issues/1621 Everything was set up in less than 15 minutes and ioannis and zafer have been super helpful with any questions we had.

In general I think this is a good direction and an interesting take on the open question around sustainable open source. Congrats on the launch and keep up the great work! :)

You could contribute to IHP! We have some great docs to get started here https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md And we have some low hanging fruits in GitHub issues for you to get started with, e.g. https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/issues/1601 (also there's always lots of activity in the IHP Slack, in case you have any questions/need help)

Really happy we've finally go to the 1.0 status :) If you like to take a look at the code, check our GitHub at https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp

kinda early for running roc in production perhaps, but you can try out haskell and its frameworks like ihp or some other web / mobile / multiplatform framework.

In recent years the Haskell ecosystem has drastically improved.

With Haskell Language Server (HLS) there's now great autocompletion and inline error reporting for e.g. VSCode and other editors.

We've recently got dot-notation, so you can type `myRecord.myField` instead of `myField myRecord`, which makes Haskell code feel more familiar when switching from other languages.

With IHP we now even have a Haskell version of Rails/Laravel. Check it out here: https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/ (I'm founder of IHP)

There is a fork that compiles to js https://github.com/ghcjs/ghcjs compiler, and I believe the official glasgow compiler is working towards also supporting js/wasm (although I don't think they are supported as of yet).

I don't know anything about Haste, but you can get GHCJS 8.6 (or 8.10 with a bloated executable) via nix fairly easily or alternatively wait until the JS target recently merged into mainline ghc gets production ready: https://engineering.iog.io/2023-01-26-ghc-update.

Ah GHCJS does have this header: https://github.com/ghcjs/ghcjs/blob/ghc-8.10/lib/boot/data/include/stg/DLL.h

About the FFI: GHCJS extended the FFI to support inlined JS, named arguments, etc. See https://github.com/ghcjs/ghcjs/blob/master/doc/foreign-function-interface.md For now the JS backend only implements FFI calls similarly to native FFI. The rest will be open to discussion later (e.g. in a ghc-proposal) and should take into account the Wasm backend so that the same user code compiles with both backends as much as possible.

I know, but I'm using GHCJS so I'm pretty much stuck with it (and using different compiler versions for development builds (which are native executables) and production doesn't seem like a good idea). There is hope though https://github.com/ghcjs/ghcjs/commits/ghc-8.10

Other than that, I ran into a GHCJS and Miso bug, but they weren't too hard to solve.

There are a bunch of open branches. And yes, there is ghcjs support in haskell.nix, see this comment.

Default branch on ghcjs github is 8.6. 8.10 is a wip with commit from around a month ago.

When I compile the ghc-8.8 branch locally, I get a number of test failures from the test suite. I'm not sure exactly how to fix them and they aren't currently my highest hobby priority.