iced VS yew

Some of the QT people have forked off and started working on slint[1], iced[2] is the most mature gui in the rust ecosystem right now (in my opinion), but still lacking in some ways, including portability to mobile and component libraries are sort of against the design principle so it's allergic to network effects. Iced is built on some pretty orthodox elm architecture principles by some very talented and devs - but they leave very little room for impurity.

[2] https://iced.rs/

Iced is a GUI library for cross-platform development with batteries included. Its architecture is also inspired by the Elm Architecture and offers built-in support for reactive programming, type safety, and speed. Iced is a little bit opinionated; it expects you to write your code using the following structure:

iced-rs/iced for OS-native GUI app development

Rewrite Muscurdi - Password Manager in Rust with [iced](https://github.com/iced-rs/iced, dioxus and/or tauri

Based on [1] it looks like System76 does actually think about accessibility, but it's not upstreamed yet.

[1]: https://github.com/iced-rs/iced/issues/552#issuecomment-2180...

AFAICT the "big deal" here is using a rust-native toolkit, iced[0], rather than just slapping together another reskinned gtk-based solution like most similar submissions do.

So this is potentially a really cool thing, not just somebody tinkering with UI elements.

[0] https://github.com/iced-rs/iced

In the last part of the series, we will build a simple UI for Zerocalc. We will use the Iced GUI library as it has a very nice API and very poor documentation which is a great opportunity to dig into its internals...

It's not actually a limitation, the ecosystem is just young:

https://github.com/iced-rs/iced

My general point though is that there's still some ecosystem/legacy reasons to stick with C++, but Rust very much fills the same niches as C++.

Yew is one of the most popular Rust frameworks (it currently has 30.5k stars on GitHub) for building modern web applications.

Compare this to Yew, a Rust framework that does this correctly. Yew's Link component only accepts values from a Routable enum. This enforces compile-time guarantees that a route is valid and internal. You cannot accidentally pass in a user-controlled string and redirect them to a malicious site. That's type safety. That's Rust's promise. And that's what Dioxus breaks.

Maybe, if you want those features, you would love yew and leptos which are other UI frameworks with Rust.

https://github.com/yewstack/yew

Rust? It's built clean from the ground up. The crates.io registry is full of modern, safe, composable libraries. You've got Axum, Rocket and Actix for backends, Leptos, Dioxus, and Yew for frontend, and more. Every library you use follows the same philosophy: safety, performance, and zero tolerance for ambiguity.

> To my knowledge there is not a Vue/React-WASM-type framework out there yet or any framework for building web apps in WASM (without starting from a blank canvas).

Not sure if these qualify, but these Rust web frameworks use wasm:

https://dioxuslabs.com/

https://leptos.dev/

https://yew.rs/

Yew

This has already been done; there are multiple languages/frameworks that compile directly to WASM with no JS such as https://yew.rs/

> You still need to access the DOM, which can't be done directly from WASM. Maybe someday it will happen?

You can access the DOM through JavaScript glue. These Rust WASM frameworks do that:

- Leptos: https://www.leptos.dev/

- Sycamore: https://sycamore.dev/

- Yew: https://yew.rs/

- Dioxus: https://dioxuslabs.com/

> Okay, so use canvas instead and do all UI inside WASM?

You can do that too. That's what this VB6 clone written in C# and compiled to WebAssembly does:

- https://bandysc.github.io/AvaloniaVisualBasic6/

- https://github.com/BAndysc/AvaloniaVisualBasic6

> vague "JavaScript limitations"

It's not vague. Despite 28 years of effort optimizing JavaScript, WebAssembly outperforms JavaScript:

- https://nuenki.app/blog/bloom_filters_optimisation

- https://jordaneldredge.com/blog/speeding-up-winamps-music-vi...

- https://www.amazon.science/blog/how-prime-video-updates-its-...