HHVM VS discourse_docker

Learned of this in https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37186869 it was posted 2 years ago to no discussion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30291459 seems far more interesting than that.

https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/blob/master/hphp/hack/doc/H... appears to be where it was proposed, and has more background than the current docs.

also fredemmott is not working on it any more https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/issues/9376

Hack and Flow are also written in OCaml.

Here is a commit generated by clippy fix without Cargo involved: https://github.com/facebook/hhvm/commit/efea2c4dcc12fdbf3a2e3ce383bbdca2de5f93a9

Compared to PHP, with its visible community, Hack/HHVM does seem like a dead-end technology. But it’s very actively maintained and it powers the largest website on the planet. It definitely doesn’t make sense for the average PHP developer to switch (and the article steers clear of evangelising) but it also definitely doesn’t make sense for us to switch back.

PHP is nearly as old as the web. Change the conversation and say: I use Hack on the Hip Hop Virtual Machine

Did you try to run it in a container?

I miss Systemd inside Docker containers so much. IMO, for an app, "one-process per container" is a huge pain and very messy. I have a massively popular software to back up that claim: https://github.com/discourse/discourse_docker

I use phusion/baseimage-docker[1] right now, love every bit of it. Having the database, web server(nginx) and the java backend all in one place works beautifully.

The only pain point is having to write `runit` scripts for startup and shutdown for each service, hence the wish for Systemd inside containers.

1: https://github.com/phusion/baseimage-docker

Discourse provides an open-source community forum. All Discourse posts are indexed by Google, which helps existing users find answers to common questions, and attracts new users through search. We self-host our Discourse forum at https://pipedream.com/community as a Docker container using the discourse-docker project.

End users love PHP because you copy the files into a folder.

That's certainly how people deployed web apps built by other people a decade ago, but these days isn't it more common to use something like Docker?

Deploying a containerized app should be pretty much the same no matter what language it's written in. And Discourse does have a Docker container (https://github.com/discourse/discourse_docker), so I'm not sure the underlying language explains why it isn't popular.