text VS ihp

String is a linked list of UTF-32 codepoints, which is just as bad as it sounds. Haskell programmers usually use Text from the text package instead.

This is the first release that was executed via the new GitHub CI. Everything went smoothly, except for an unexpected packaging bug on windows due to text-2.0 linking against libstdc++ by default.

In addition to what's mentioned, the "default" libraries people use are often not the best-performing ones. E.g. Data.Vector.Hashtables is often much faster than Data.HashMap.Strict (which again is typically faster than Data.Map). And we find performance papercuts in common libraries that may simply be due to not enough people optimising for speed.

Used by nearly every Haskell project: https://hackage.haskell.org/package/text 60% of the modules are ".Internal".

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Here is a representative patch for text: https://github.com/haskell/text/pull/365/commits/37a2157245457a287d638bbceb472fe93b71f224 Hopefully it clarifies why achieving C performance is problematic even if you have enough primitive operations.

I want to run an app in a Docker container, but detached. This causes getLine to throw an EOF exception, since the terminal detaches. That is, if I understand this thread correctly https://github.com/haskell/text/issues/258.

I found IHP straightforward:

https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/

despite not remembering much haskell!

This assumes you can get past nix for the install.

I find IHP well-designed. I just wish the licensing scheme were more transparent.

You can find the docs at https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/ and some getting started videos at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLl9Sjq6Nzc&list=PLenFm8BWuKlS0IaE31DmKB_PbkMLmwWmG

In case this got you interested in Haskell, and you want a good way to start your Haskell journey (and have something to apply the optimization handbook to), check out IHP. It's the Rails/Laravel of the Haskell world. You can start here https://ihp.digitallyinduced.com/Guide/index.html or check it out on GitHub here https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp

At IHP we've been using Algora for a while now and it works really great. Here's e.g. one PR that was merged last week with a bounty attached https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/issues/1621 Everything was set up in less than 15 minutes and ioannis and zafer have been super helpful with any questions we had.

In general I think this is a good direction and an interesting take on the open question around sustainable open source. Congrats on the launch and keep up the great work! :)

You could contribute to IHP! We have some great docs to get started here https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md And we have some low hanging fruits in GitHub issues for you to get started with, e.g. https://github.com/digitallyinduced/ihp/issues/1601 (also there's always lots of activity in the IHP Slack, in case you have any questions/need help)