glbinding VS std-simd

Ever heard of https://glbinding.org ?

You should checkout glbinding, it might give you some ideas for your own wrapper.

I have based my career on top of C++/backend/soft-real time systems.

I still have to read the full paper, thanks for the post!

Many people rant about C++, but, IMHO, overall, taking into account ecosystem, tools, etc. C++ stands as an almost unbeatable technology when you put everything together. It has quirks, asymmetries and all of that.

But since C++11 it is nicer to use and all the standards after it have been improving on it: generic lambdas, structured bindings, string non-template parameters, constexpr and consteval... it is amazing what you can do with C++ that is difficult or almost impossible to do with other languages.

On the missing pieces I would mention that you need to use macros to have some kind of reflection for members and pattern matching and networking would be really nice to have.

Modules are still an experiment implementation-wise, but hey, they will improve on the side of hiding implementation details by a big margin.

As for the ecosystem, nowadays you have CMake (whose language sucks badly) and Meson. Together with Conan things have improved a lot since I started coding in around 2001.

Pack that with an IDE like CLion or Visual Studio + Resharper or lightweight IDE (Emacs + Lsp and the like) and you have an environment that is very competitive and whose code can be compiled almost anywhere. From ARM to x86, MIPS and even Webassembly.

That is why I think C++ is still the way to go if what you want is performance: you also have interfaces such as OpenCL/GL/Vulkan/SIMD libraries (though not C++ standard) where you can access hardware. Also, vendors and open source have things such as https://github.com/cginternals/glbinding

neither proposing nor taking a position on this possible addition)

> ... For completeness we would also like to add that a serious issue is that C still lacks vector operations.

Those are good points. The authors don't take a stance on it, but I do think that syntax for packed structs should be standardized. IMO, so should syntax for inline assembly (both as optional features). These are already common extensions; this is exactly what they should standardize. The additions of "typeof" and #embed are also good examples of this (they had been talking about adding #embed since 1995 [1]).

As for vector instructions, I'm unsure how it could be implemented in a standard way, but I'm not against it. Maybe something like this [2], but with the syntax changed for C instead of C++.

[1]: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.std.c/c/zWFEXDvyTwM

[2]: https://github.com/VcDevel/std-simd

Interesting, thanks for sharing :)

At the time we open-sourced Highway, the standardization process had already started and there were some discussions.

I'm curious why stdlib is the only path you see to default? Compare the activity level of https://github.com/VcDevel/std-simd vs https://github.com/google/highway. As to open-source usage, after years of std::experimental, I see <200 search hits [1], vs >400 for Highway [2], even after excluding several library users.

But that aside, I'm not convinced standardization is the best path for a SIMD library. We and external users extend Highway on a weekly basis as new use cases arise. What if we deferred those changes to 3-monthly meetings, or had to wait for one meeting per WD, CD, (FCD), DIS, (FDIS) stage before it's standardized? Standardization seems more useful for rarely-changing things.

1: https://sourcegraph.com/search?q=context:global+std::experim...

2: https://sourcegraph.com/search?q=context:global+HWY_NAMESPAC...

std-simd - 451 GH stars

Bad news. For SIMD there are not cross-platform intrinsics. Intel intrinsics map directly to SSE/AVX instructions and ARM intrinsics map directly to NEON instructions.

For cross-platform, your best bet is probably https://github.com/VcDevel/std-simd

There's https://eigen.tuxfamily.org/index.php?title=Main_Page But, it's tremendously complicated for anything other than large-scale linear algebra.

And, there's https://github.com/microsoft/DirectXMath But, it has obvious biases :P

But after I worked with auto-vectorization(I wrote about that in part 2), I decided to switch and try myself by adding intrinsics if I was able. You can track my progress here:https://github.com/VcDevel/std-simd/pull/35

STD-SIMD it's almost the same project I was working, but a bit advance https://github.com/VcDevel/std-simd.

If you are worried about Intel vs Arm vs whatever, use https://github.com/VcDevel/std-simd

or https://github.com/KhronosGroup/Vulkan-Hpp which help quite a bit. Or https://github.com/VcDevel/std-simd.

If you want GUIs, same, you have at least (but not only) Qt or WxWidgets.

Want to interface scripting? Pybind11, Boost.Python, WrenBind17 for Wren, Sol2 for Lua... and all things that interface to C work also if you feel brave...

I really think that when it is about getting the job done... C++ goes a long way towards the task.

This is my 20 year experience of C++, almost 13 of those years professionally. Now, back to read the paper. :)

... I just checked your link and wouldn't say that any of these languages have SIMD more than C++ has it currently -

- Java: incubation stage (how is that different from https://github.com/VcDevel/std-simd). Also Java is only getting it soonish for... amd64 and aarch64 ??