ghidra VS cutter

Let's see what our beloved software reverse engineering framework Ghidra has to show.

Define war machinery. Contributing to Ghidra?

https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/ghidra

Binary Ninja likewise is empty and keeps up just fine as well. It's not a coincidence that the two commercial products that are funding it are both confident enough to put their stuff online like this.

And it's no conspiracy theory or intentional sandbagging, you can see the implementation: https://github.com/decompiler-explorer/decompiler-explorer

and if anyone can improve the other tools performance we'd be happy to accept it. We reached out to the Ghidra devs: https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/ghidra/issues/5228 but they didn't have any silver bullets for us either.

Nice, I'll give it a closer look. My only concern so far is memory hooking (still needed for hardware registers), which on Java side was called by FilteredMemoryState [1]. In memstate.cc it looks like just the simpler MemoryState is implemented [2], and there's no equivalent to MemoryAccessFilter. But it might not be that complicated to add...

[1]: https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/ghidra/blob/4561e8...

[2]: https://github.com/NationalSecurityAgency/ghidra/blob/4561e8...

Everything Hiew can do, Rizin[1] can do too, and is completely free and open source[2] under LGPL3 license. Moreover, it supports more architectures, platforms, and file formats, as well as GUI in Qt - Cutter[3][4]. If something is missing in Rizin but presented in Hiew, please let us know by opening the issue with details.

[1] https://rizin.re

[2] https://github.com/rizinorg/rizin

[3] https://cutter.re

[4] https://github.com/rizinorg/cutter

Okay, so, your comment about a "Dasher + Guitar Hero music theory/improvisation practice program" just sent me down a huge rabbit hole...

Well, rabbit hole(s) plural, I guess, most not directly related. :D

Largely because I made the "mistake" of looking at your HN profile & discovering you're also in NZ & we seem to have somewhat overlapping interests (and an affinity for "bacon" in account names, apparently), so, some thoughts[0]... :)

# Topic 1: Nissan Leaf VSP hacking

After reading your recent posts (https://ianrrees.github.io//2023/07/03/vsp-hacking.html & https://ianrrees.github.io//2023/08/05/voltage-glitch-inject...) on this topic & noting your remark about wanting to try reverse engineering a firmware image, I found the following thesis PDF (via a brief google search for `"reverse engineer" "firmware" "Renesas"`):

* "AUTOMOTIVE FIRMWARE EXTRACTION AND ANALYSIS TECHNIQUES" by Jan Van den Herrewegen https://etheses.bham.ac.uk/id/eprint/11516/1/VandenHerrewege...

Not really what I was anticipating finding but seems relevant to your interests--I don't think it was already in your resource list.

While the thesis addresses the Renesas 78K0 rather than the Renesas 78K0R, from a brief look at the "Flash Protection" PDF Application Note in your resource list it seems there's a large overlap.

Perhaps most significantly the author presents "novel methods" that combine bootloader binary analysis with constraint-based power glitching in an effort to improve on the results described in "Shaping the Glitch".

While I haven't read the entire 186 pages :D they theorize that using their approach extracting 8kB firmware might only take ~10 hours.

And, most helpfully, they even published their source code under the GPL here: https://github.com/janvdherrewegen/bootl-attacks

So, an interesting adjacent read even if it turns out not to be directly applicable to your situation.

Given I have an interest in & a little experience with firmware reversing my original thought was to maybe provide some hopefully helpful references that more generically related to firmware reversing but more specific is good too, I guess. :)

In terms of reverse engineering tooling, I've used Rizin/Cutter/radare2 previously: https://rizin.re https://cutter.re

On the CAN tooling/info front, you might be interested in taking a look at my "Adequate CAN" list which I originally wrote-up for a client a couple years ago: https://gitlab.com/RancidBacon/adequate-can

Some other probably outdated reverse engineering tooling links of mine: https://web.archive.org/web/20200119074540/http://www.labrad...

In terms of how to approach RE, other than just "getting started & digging in" & learning by doing, I've sometimes found it informative to read other people's firmware reverse engineering write-ups to learn about potentially useful approaches/tools.

Anyway, hopefully some of this is helpful!

[0] I have a tendency to be a little... "verbose" and/or "thorough" (depending on one's POV :) ) so I'll probably split this over a couple of comments, in case I run out of steam while writing and for topic separation.

In Cutter[1][2] we have an idea to implement thes same feature[3] as a plugin, but our priorities lie elsewhere die to the lack of enough hands. Contributions are welcome.

[1] https://cutter.re

[2] https://github.com/rizinorg/cutter

[3] https://github.com/rizinorg/cutter-plugins/issues/3

For this kind of task, using low-level debugger tools is probably better. Rizin[1][2]/Cutter[3][4] could help. We also have GSoC participant this year who works hard on improving debuginfo and debugging support[5]. I personally also like Binary Ninja, they recently made their debugger stable enough[6].

[1] https://rizin.re/

[2] https://github.com/rizinorg/rizin

[3] https://cutter.re/

[4] https://github.com/rizinorg/cutter

[5] https://rizin.re/posts/gsoc-2023-announcement/

[5] https://binary.ninja/2023/05/03/3.4-finally-freed.html#debug...

Something like https://cutter.re/ or https://www.nirsoft.net/utils/dll_export_viewer.html Could possibly give you some insight. I guess the question though is, what are you trying to do with it?

Rizin[1] (and therefore Cutter[2]) supports interactive disassembly and analysis (but not decompilation) of the Python bytecode[3][4]. Apart from that it also supports Java and Lua bytecode for different versions.

[1] https://rizin.re

[2] https://cutter.re

[3] https://github.com/rizinorg/rizin/tree/dev/librz/asm/arch/py...

[4] https://github.com/rizinorg/rizin/blob/dev/librz/analysis/p/...

cutter is quite nice though