freebsd-update-probe VS void-packages

https://github.com/tux2bsd/freebsd-update-probe

freebsd-update is broken, it does internal spaghetti which prevents it from doing the most logical thing first: "check upstream for updates"

I created a work around, it works well.

I don't use FreeBSD, but it's good for a hobby OS. Has a few cool ways to do things (seperation of OS vs external software & /etc/rc.conf). The project is coasting on ZFS success.

They HATE me at the FreeBSD Forums. I don't think a single one of them truly understood what freebsd-update-probe actually achieved.

I'm not a programmer.

FreeBSD related shameless plug: https://github.com/tux2bsd/freebsd-update-probe

It makes the update process efficient like it should have been (when there are no updates).

I gave FreeBSD a try:

I provided a workaround for a problem with freebsd-update, summary and tool can found here: https://github.com/tux2bsd/freebsd-update-probe

FreeBSD separation of OS vs other applications is great.

FreeBSD pioneered ZFS integration but are coasting on that success.

The FreeBSD forums, linked from the FreeBSD website are insular. FreeBSD zealots LARPing as the true "true" BSD / Unix enthusiasts.

If you want to try FreeBSD just use the Handbook. The FreeBSD community is childish and won't list that FreeBSD can run on KVM (the mere fact it can, I'm not talking in depth instructions).

I loathe nearly all man pages, they are written in a manner that is as over the top and an absolute chore to digest. I believe it is a form on programmer one-upmanship, it is largely unnecessary and stalls common usage massively.

I made this recently and tried very hard to make it so that the vast majority of people that could use the command line could grasp what it did, usage is trivial:

https://github.com/tux2bsd/freebsd-update-probe

I guess what I'm saying is I like documentation written for humans (which you do).

I was looking for a lightweight OS to run on old Asus Eee PC 1005 HA, which uses a 32-bit Intel Atom N270 processor. I installed Void Linux (https://voidlinux.org/).

I may give DSL 2024 a try and see how it compares.

Linux Void

My computer is running Void Linux and it has only a wired network connection. I can hook up my phone for USB tethering if I need to connect to the WiFi of the ESP32. How do I update the software without downloading some shady programs from filesharing site links on my system? I have the Arduino IDE and the esptool.py script installed.

Classic "everyone is using the software wrong, but it's the fault of everyone, and not the software".

Some distros like Void seem to patch this out.[1]

From mandoc/mdocml's mandoc_char(7) [2]

In roff(7) documents, the minus sign is normally written as ‘\-’. In manual pages, some style guides recommend to also use ‘\-’ if an ASCII 0x2d “hyphen-minus” output glyph that can be copied and pasted is desired in output modes supporting it, for example in -T utf8 and -T html. But currently, no practically relevant manual page formatter requires that subtlety, so in manual pages, it is sufficient to write plain ‘-’ to represent hyphen, minus, and hyphen-minus.

Which is the common-sense thing to do.

Meanwhile, GNU projects become increasingly less relevant due to obnoxiousness like this.

In general the amount of wankery of "the correct hyphen" is staggering.

[1]: https://man.openbsd.org/mandoc_char

[2]: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/blob/20c66829134...

So I was about to configure a new Archlinux build on my PC and came across Void Linux. I had already read about it a year ago but never researched it in depth. I know that is a Linux distribution made from scratch, with a different package manager and so on. Void Linux users or people who have tried it, what are your thoughts on it? Do you think the PM is easy to use? what about updates and bugs? what desktop or Tilling Window Manager do you use? could you tell me about it?

Good news about dbus-next: https://github.com/void-linux/void-packages/pull/46760