fp-ts VS immutable-js

While I certainly agree, I've found that this is often an indication of too-complex an architecture, and a fundamental re-think being necessary. I've had projects that depend on [fp-ts], which end up incredibly generic-heavy, but still make it entirely through a typecheck(not build- typescript's just worse at that than other tools like esbuild) in seconds-at-worse.

Obviously depends on your organization/project/application, but I do like these things as complexity-smells.

[fp-ts]: https://gcanti.github.io/fp-ts/

Unlike more comprehensive functional libraries like fp-ts, each module can be imported and resolved separately. If you just need options, simply add the option module and you're good to go.

While it's quite abstract, I believe it may be useful to those of you who is interested to learn more about functional programming [in Typescript] and also get more intuition on diverse programming ideas. I use fp-ts as a functional programming library there.

The library for TypeScript that this is influenced by is here:

https://github.com/gcanti/fp-ts

Interesting how both languages with this library converge to a similar syntax, due to heavy use of functions.

Learn something that pays the bill first - nowadays it's Golang/Rust react/typescript. Then you can try some pure fp libs like fp-ts and fp-core.rs, and look through existing scala cats docs. If you'll feel bad about it - that's totally fine and expectable, fp takes a paradigm shift and not that many dev able to shift their brains way of thought due to basic psychological rigidity) (inability to change habits and to modify concepts/attitudes once developed). And that's purely a staffing and management issue - folks hired randoms out of the blue, and called 'em a team.

fp-ts, a library that caters to functional programming in TypeScript, comes with some micro-abstractions that already solve a few of our needs.

Also, don't underestimate how powerful TypeScript can be in capable hands (namely Giulio Canti's). Check out fp-ts, for instance.

You are able to type it using function overloads, an example can be found here - link, line 236.

looks like more ergonomic/focused version of fp-ts[1]

[1] https://gcanti.github.io/fp-ts/

We used a functional programming library that pretty much mimicked haskell (https://github.com/gcanti/fp-ts) so we still had to train folks for months before they could be useful on a consistent basis. the team fucked up

immutable for JavaScript.

Check out Object.freeze. There's also Immutable.js for working with immutable data.

Use immutability to manage state updates When updating state in your React application, it's important to ensure that you are not mutating the original state object. Instead, you should create a new copy of the state object with the updated values. Immutability makes it easier to manage state updates and ensures that the updates are performed in a predictable and safe manner. Libraries like Immutable.js provide a set of functions that simplify working with immutable data in React applications.

We're wanting to get rid of immutable so I'm trying to replicate what it is about the Record functionality and types that allow this dynamic property access to work. After pulling my hair out looking through the [email protected] type definitions and the actual code, to me it looks like the types are just kind of lying about what's going on ... and it's just working. Does anyone have any ideas how I can replicate this dynamic property access with strong typings?

The Immutable.js README has a much more complete description of immutability and why you might want to use the library. Also worth mentioning that Immer is an alternative which is a bit easier to get started with.

Examples: immutable-js Immer

I can't speak to C# and Java, but the suggestion in this post: ImmutableJS already uses Persistent data structures. (It's the second sentence of their introduction)

Avoiding mutation is just never modifiyng an object, ever. There are tons of implementations of this pattern, notably immutable.js (https://immutable-js.com/), Redux is also an example of this philosophy.

JavaScript is most programers' first introduction to map, filter, and reduce. Easy lambdas made those higher-order functions a staple of a lot of JS code.

Meanwhile, immutable.js[0] is at 10 million downloads per week and rising.

I would add that it's not just the ease of use of lambdas, but the fact that in JavaScript functions really are first class citizens. Most of the other widely used languages that people start on have lambda functions added in as a bit of a hack and only treat some functions as real values.

[0] https://www.npmjs.com/package/immutable