fnm VS asdf

https://github.com/Schniz/fnm works pretty well with fish, btw. The main drawback is that it doesn't have a command to automatically install your global npm packages from the last version. But it is not too hard to make your own.

or, just use nvm (https://github.com/nvm-sh/nvm) or fnm (https://github.com/Schniz/fnm). fnm is nice because it does not lag shell startup as much as nvm. these latter two options may be better for dev than production, just since it is mostly installed to your local environment

Related to this, I have been using fnm as a drop-in replacement for nvm for years, possibly 44x times faster but can't vouch for the benchmark :)

I agree with trying to lazyload these libs. Another helpful tip is I switched from nvm to fnm maybe half a dozen years ago and it is so much faster, I even alias nvm="fnm" and I am not someone that switches to rust things because "rust".

Node.js installed on your machine. I recommend installing Node.js either via NVM or FNM

This looks really promising. I love seeing these tools written in languages other than the thing they're targeting.

As an example I use fnm (https://github.com/Schniz/fnm) for managing JavaScript versions. It runs so fast (compared to nvm) I'm inclined to think something went wrong and it silently failed, but it never does!

In the Node world, there are a few options like NVM, N, FNM, Volta, and more. I've been a longtime user of NVM, so we'll detail those instructions for use here:

We use asdf for managing multiple binary versions. You just add a .tool-versions file with the application and version number in the root directory and just uses that version when you're running tf. https://asdf-vm.com/

I'm on an M1 MacBook Pro 16". The performance issues are well understood by the asdf team and the Github issue with most comments is on the topic: https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf/issues/290

This was with a half dozen plugins and use_legacy_file disabled. Hardly an edge-case. Though I'll note in other tests it was around 200ms (which is the number I put in the README to be fair). @danfritz in this thread said his can take over 2 seconds!

I think that asdf (https://asdf-vm.com) was a great idea for a project. It helps consolidate installing and running different programming languages into a similar UX. It also is built with a plugin interface that makes it easy to build support for new languages.

However it is so slow. I was just testing `node -v` and it was taking ~900ms. That kind of overhead is completely unusable. My shell prompt uses runtimes inside of it for various things so this effectively makes every command take multiple seconds to complete.

So I rebuilt it in Rust but using the same plugin ecosystem so it should be a drop-in replacement. I also added a couple of features that I wanted from asdf (aliases and fuzzy-matching).

Let me know what you think! Just know that people have only been using this for a few days so if you see any bugs, they're likely not big hairy issues, just overlooked edge-cases and will be fixed soon.

https://github.com/jdxcode/rtx

Not a generic package manager, but it's probably worth calling out asdf as the generic version manager[0] (maybe you're already aware of it, but it's a generic replacement for nvm, rvm, virtualenv, *vm, which supports any language based on plugins.)

Again, maybe you're already aware of it, but I think it's a nice example of genericising a concern common to many languages which sounds similar to what you're asking for (albeit unfortunately in a slightly different space).

[0] https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf

Not my project but found if while looking into the "asdf" project's performance issues ticket: https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf/issues/290#issuecomment-1406...

My coworker uses this a lot at work. Being by Microsoft that dovetails really well with the visual studio code. I find the CLI to be okay I guess for something written in JavaScript. I prefer ASDF generally[1], there's always a lot of fiddling you have to do with containers, but this is more cross platform so there's that.

1: https://asdf-vm.com

What benefit would joining your cult bestow upon me that brew does not already?

My brew list is intentionally very short and my faffing about desire is limited.

Generally I use brew to pull in asdf (https://github.com/asdf-vm/asdf) to install programming languages/tooling, it works flawlessly.

I use Pipx (https://github.com/pypa/pipx) to install python thingies (such as yt-dlp) as a cli. Go and Rust handle binaries in their languages beautifully and without issues.

Not sure of the differences, but I pretty much use asdf for all the version setups I need. There are plugins that support versions for both Terraform and Terragrunt as well.