ejc-sql VS cider

I wouldn't suggest ejc-sql at the moment as it simply fails to build correctly as I and others have reported in this issue.

there's also https://github.com/kostafey/ejc-sql it requires clojure/cider, though

> I do think cider (https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider) has stuff regarding stepping debuggers, but I'm not sure how common it is to use it. Maybe other Clojure users can fill me in :)

I don't really care about stepping; for me the debugger is about inspecting the state of my program when an exception (maybe because I interrupted it, or because I inserted a breakpoint, or just because something went wrong) happens. Backtrace, local variables, evaluating forms at different stack frames and so-forth.

The `let` binding is local, so it's referring to clojure.core/+, and outside the function `add` I can use the name `add` to call it. Seems it's handling that case correct?

> I watched a video and it does seem rather complete, but [1] indicates there is no debugger?

I think debuggers tend to be used as a library across many different editors, rather than the editor/plugin providing that functionality. Personally, I don't use debuggers much as the functions I write tend to be small and evaluating small executions with the repl tends to reveal the issue quickly. Sometimes when refactoring others code I've used https://github.com/philoskim/debux to various degrees of success.

I do think cider (https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider) has stuff regarding stepping debuggers, but I'm not sure how common it is to use it. Maybe other Clojure users can fill me in :)

> . I also don't see a profiler mentioned

Yeah, as you said, the Java ecosystem basically covers that. For OSS stuff, I use VisualVM, and for professional stuff I use YourKit, both of them work well with Clojure and points out my user-space code with ease. And I've never been paid anything for actually writing/maintaining Java code, so even with that, seems I'm able to use those tools just for Clojure :)

> As an aside, by "continuations" did you mean "restarts"?

Ah yes, of course. The condition system and restarts :) Thanks!

This was a pain. I tried using vscode with calva, but gave up pretty soon after starting. Ended up using emacs with cider, which was pretty nice, but had a huge learning curve for me since I'm not an emacs user. (Maybe I am after this...)

I was wondering that what the author and other redditors here would think of/about Cursive, an affordable IDE for Clojure, while they have cider in Emacs as well.

I'm very excited about sideloader feature in nREPL 0.9 and the corresponding ability for CIDER to upgrade the connection, adding its middleware. But I don't see this connection upgrading feature ticket #3037 in the plans for CIDER 1.2, but the sideloader ticket #246 is listed in the plans for nREPL 0.9. It seems that #3037 is held only by #246, so if it will be solved by the time 0.9 release, will there be plans to supporting it in CIDER 1.2?

I asked something similar on the Cider Github and it sounds like it's not possible to get ELisp level debugging:

https://github.com/clojure-emacs/cider/discussions/2999

If anything Clojure needs this more than ELisp b/c of the crazy error stacks and b/c of how the laziness makes things blow up in all sorts of weird places