edgedb VS react-relay

A new DB, with a new query language that's like "SQL done right"? This immediately reminded me of EdgeDB: https://edgedb.com/

Is there anyone here who knows enough about these two products to do a compare/contrast?

The whole thing consists of these main parts:

1. SQL parser: https://github.com/edgedb/edgedb/tree/master/edb/pgsql/parse...

>relational no-sql

Do you mean something like edgeDB?[0]

Or do you mean some non-declarative language completely? I don't see the latter making much sense. The issue with SQL for me is the "natural language" which quickly loses all intended readabilty when you have SELECT col1, col2 FROM (SELECT * FROM ... WHERE 1=0 AND ... which is what edgeDB is trying to solve.

[0]https://edgedb.com/

We need to land #3747, then something like this should work

You have to do your own optimiser to avoid, for instance, the N+1 query problem. (Just Google that, plenty of explanations around.) Many GraphQL frameworks have a “naive” subquery implementation that performs N individual subqueries. You either have to override this for each parent/child pairing, or bolt something on the back to delay all the “SELECT * FROM tbl_subquery WHERE id = ?” operations and convert them into one “… WHERE id IN (…)”. Sounds like a great use of your time.

In the end you might think to yourself “why am I doing this, when my SQL database already has query optimisation?”. And it’s a fair question, you are onto it. Try one of those auto-GraphQL things instead. EdgeDB (https://edgedb.com) does it as we speak, runs atop Postgres. Save yourself the enormous effort if you’re only building a GraphQL API for a single RBDMS, and not as a façade for a cluster of microservices and databases and external requests.

Or just nod to your boss and go back to what being a backend developer has always meant: laboriously building by hand completely ad hoc JSON versions of SQL RBDMS schemas, each terribly unhappy in its own way. In no way does doing it manually but presenting GraphQL deviate from this Sisyphean tradition.

I read in the article that NOT having GraphQL exactly match your DB schema is a best practice. My response is “did a backend developer write this?”

Same idea, yeah. Unfortunately, in our case we couldn't use pytest due to complicated test setup, so we used a customized unittest runner instead.

EdgeDB [1] has indeed a rich GraphQL layer, but it's a very different project.

While it also builds on top of Postgres, EdgeDB replaces the entire relational database front-end. EdgeDB features a SQL replacement language called EdgeQL (analytical capabilities of SQL married with deep-fetching in GraphQL), a higher-level data model (tables -> object types), integrated migrations engine, a custom protocol with great performance & great client APIs, and many other things. Read more here [2].

(disclaimer: I'm EdgeDB co-founder)

[1] https://github.com/edgedb/edgedb

[2] https://www.edgedb.com/blog/edgedb-1-0

I'm curious how this squares up with what someone linked elsewhere: https://github.com/edgedb/edgedb/discussions/3403

> EdgeDB does not treat Postgres as a simple standard SQL store. The opposite is true. To realize the full potential of the graph-relational model and EdgeQL efficiently, we must squeeze every last bit of functionality out of PostgreSQL's implementation of SQL and its schema.

This would seem to be an opposing view of how coupled EdgeDB and PostgreSQL are. Which is it?

GraphQL Relay is one of the most powerful GraphQL clients that you can found on the web environment. It provides to you a lot of features that lets your development flow in a scalable way.

GQty (https://gqty.dev/) and Relay (https://relay.dev/) will combine fragments or queries you request in your React components and will handle combining these / getting the data each component needs with as few queries as is possible. Are there any other clients I’ve missed? It’s not immediately clear to me whether this is possible with Urql via Exchanges (https://formidable.com/open-source/urql/docs/advanced/authoring-exchanges/).

Inside Woovi, our entire codebase is managed by GraphQL using the Relay client framework. To ensure the best UX possible for our final user, we give some useful features in our payment link, like the real-time update after paying a charge. It's all handled by our GraphQL, which won't be solvable by templates in our use case.

Since you mentioned Node CRUD APIs, I'd probably suggest looking at Relay/GraphQL. Would give you exposure to some interesting and employable skills that wouldn't require you learning an entirely new domain on top of it. They are rewriting the current compiler in Rust, which since you mentioned Rust might be interesting to follow. Uneducated takes, but GraphQL is a schema IDL, so would probably be a good place to start to minimize lexical complexity while still having some cool abstract concepts to learn (interfaces, unions, etc).

You may be familiar with Global Object Identification(GOI), especially if you've used Relay.

Relay (17k ⭐) -> The production-ready GraphQL client for React, developed by Facebook, was designed to be performant from the ground up, built upon locally declaring data dependencies for components.

I think open sourcing for free labor is a common misconception. Most corporate led open source projects (eg, https://github.com/bottlerocket-os/bottlerocket from AWS or https://github.com/facebook/relay from Facebook) still require a team of employees.

If you look at relay.dev, Relay is the GraphQL client that scales with you. This definition is simple and defines Relay pretty well for the ones that already know all the features that Relay brings to the table.

https://github.com/psf/black/issues/338 https://github.com/VeriorPies/ParrelSync/issues/61 https://github.com/prusa3d/PrusaSlicer/issues/5751 https://github.com/iterative/dvc/issues/2530 https://github.com/facebook/relay/issues/3647 And I know godmode9 at one point absolutely freaked when navigating into a symlink. It kinda depends on the app and what it's trying to load