diffhtml VS solid

diffhtml

Hi floodfx, we should chat at some point if you're on slack/discord/etc. I'm building something extremely similar and there's potential opportunity to share some code/learnings. Personally I feel this design paradigm is the real web 3.0.

My project is https://diffhtml.org/ and I have started experimenting with middleware to bridge to server and client workers: https://github.com/tbranyen/diffhtml/pull/251. For the server worker, it uses a WebSocket to ferry the VDOM diff patches, custom events, and property access/function calls. A big goal is to allow synchronous "main thread" access from workers, including on the server-side. This would allow you to write your UI code as if you were a client side app. It does this the same way as partytown using a SharedArrayBuffer and Atomics. You can see demo source code here: https://gist.github.com/tbranyen/2f5be81cfb7b3aa1bb443c8ef13....

I've also toyed around with hot reloading components without the need for a pre-processor like Babel, and the results are hugely promising. Stateful live UI updates from saving a component file to seeing in the browser without all the fuss with complex build steps is liberating.

I'm probably a few months out from having a usable beta, but I'm going to follow your project closely. Thanks for sharing!

I suggested one such idea (a diffing version of innerHTML) years ago to Mozilla. Ironically, the React team was against it and it fizzled out. In more ironic twists of events, someone eventually wrote a JS implementation of it: https://github.com/tbranyen/diffhtml/tree/master/packages/di... and nowadays people are talking about HTML-based rendering engines again, making this idea somewhat relevant once more.

To be fair to standards bodies, they have done some work. Element.append now exists to make hyperscripts a bit more straightforward, and a lot of reactivity semantics can be implemented on top of Proxy.

This doesn't support the various consumer cloud storage APIs, but you've just reminded me of a project I ran into years ago that seems to still be around: https://remotestorage.io/

There's also Solid which attempts to do something similar: https://solidproject.org/

Solid is a web native protocol to enable interoperable, read-write, collaborative, and decentralized web, truer to web's original vision.

Manas project(https://github.com/manomayam/manas/tree/main) aims to create a modular framework and ecosystem to create correct, robust storage servers adhering to Solid protocol in rust.

[Solid](https://solidproject.org/) is a web native protocol to enable interoperable, read-write, collaborative, and decentralized web, truer to web's original vision.

    Solid adds to existing Web standards to realise a space where individuals can maintain their autonomy, control their data and privacy, and choose applications and services to fulfil their needs.

Tim Berners-Lee's Solid project is working on that. Put data in "pods" that are stored on pod servers, which are federated. You can self-host.

It could be a federated layer of identity & personal content decoupled from social platforms.

https://solidproject.org/

Check out https://solidproject.org (If you want a short intro I recently gave a ~30min talk about it: https://noeldemartin.com/fosdem)

I haven't tried, but SOLID pods would probably do the trick. https://solidproject.org/

I wanted to start a discussion about the Solid standard (https://solidproject.org/) and the apps built on top of it. Solid is a technology developed by Sir Tim Berners-Lee, the creator of the World Wide Web, that aims to give users control over their personal data. It's based on the idea of "personal pods," where users store their data in a secure and private way, and can choose who has access to it.

This example was created for the specific needs of Web Storage, File and Solid Pod persistence, for a scaling representation of JSON application state.

Well, if you want a decentralised web without going down the snake-oil of blockchain stuff, then Tim-Berners Lee is actually working on a neat project y'all can get involved with today called the Solid Project!

If you're interested in a decentralised web, then Tim Berners-Lee is already part of an open-source crew making that possible without the blockchain over on the Solid Project - take a look and contribute if you're interested in that kind of thing!