diesel VS tikv

7. Diesel

Both seem nice. However, both of them rely very heavily on prepared statements. Unfortunately, using prepared statements is a no-go when you use connection poolers like pgbouncer, or in my case AWS RDS proxy. A discussion in Diesel indicates that disel is not going to provide any support for disabling prepared stements (https://github.com/diesel-rs/diesel/discussions/3575), and a discussion on sqlx hints that disabling prepared statements is possible, but I haven't found any documentation or examples for it.

In addition we are experimenting with prebuild versions of diesel-cli that can be installed directly. We have a set of prebuilt binaries here. We are interested in feedback about how the provided binaries work on your platform.

First of all thanks for making this great tool. As it happens I currently toy around with using it for diesel-cli releases. See the WIP PR here. I think diesel-cli is a good example of a tool that depends on system libraries as it needs to link native database drivers, so this new release is welcome. Defining the dependencies seems to allow easily building things on x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu and x86_64-apple-darwin. It seems to pick up everything in the right way there.

I did look at mysql initially. Then I started checking other crates. Diesel is an Object Relation Model (ORM), I'm not yet keen on taking on the complication of learning ORM, I give this crate a pass in the meantime.

I would recommend people look at diesel from Rust for how nice it could be. https://diesel.rs/ Look at the complex queries example. So much more readable and easier to understand.

Most wanted missing features in diesel

There are two problems with using Rust for web servers:

1. The only production-ready Rust web servers require writing async request handlers. Async Rust is not fun.

2. The only good Postgres client library is async: https://crates.io/crates/sqlx

I'm trying to remedy the first problem with https://crates.io/crates/servlin .

Solving the second problem will be another project. I hope someone else does it. There is https://crates.io/crates/diesel but it has the same problem as async Rust: incomprehensible compiler errors.

Lemmy is written in Rust using Actix Web and Diesel.rs.

https://actix.rs/

https://diesel.rs/

I know that very similar functionality to this is in TiDB Serverless ( https://tidbcloud.com ). TiDB is a distributed relational database. It uses TiKV ( which is a key/value engine ) as the storage engine. You could use SQL to access your K/V records. There is ongoing work in TiKV to support S3 directly as the storage backend ( https://github.com/tikv/tikv/issues/6506 ) .

TiKV is basically a layer on top of rocksdb https://github.com/tikv/tikv/blob/956610725039835557e7516828...

> Many,many smart people…

If you look inside the code you can see the stated features are a result of underlying engine (TiKV [0] also in c and rust from pingcap). Surrealdb is standing on shoulders of giants at present, they are TiKV, FoundationDB and rocksdb. The feature set they mentioned mostly coming from TiKV at present.

[0] https://tikv.org/

Hi Diggsey, great question. We are currently focussed on functionality and stability, and then will draw our attention to performance. Coming this week we have a RocksDB storage implementation. We've only just launched our initial beta version, and we know there is a lot of improvement and work to be done (some of these performance issues we know about already and are on our Github issues list).

With regards to the consistency/isolation model, SurrealDB sits on top of a number of key-value stores. By using the distributed highly-available TiKV storage backend, https://tikv.org, (and we have a FoundationDB integration in the works), the database is designed to be highly-scalable and highly-available. The same guarantees (albeit just single-node, so no high-availability or scalability) will be available with the RocksDB implementation coming this week. By sitting on top of these key-value stores, SurrealDB ensures that all transactions are ACID compliant. We don't want to go for speed (for instance by writing to /dev/null) over anything, but want SurrealDB to be a reliable and performant backend for any application. Obviously we have a way to go to catch up with PostgreSQL (launched in 1996), but we will strive to get there!

If you are looking for a production ready distributed store written in Rust. Check out TiKV(https://github.com/tikv/tikv), which was also mentioned in the acknowledge section of the project's README.

There's also a full-featured distributed RDBMS called TiDB built on top of TiKV.