darling VS ravynos

There is actually a Wine-like transplier called Darling. The problem is that development is very slow because there is not as much need for MacOS programs on Linux, and there is a huge shortage of volunteers and manpower. And it has been rendered almost obsolete because Apple moved to ARM. Additionally 90% of Apple's API is closed source despite Apple claiming to champion open source.

Unfortunately not. Darling [0] is still at the point that it can only run command line applications. Only the most basic GUI applications are supported. That's still a massive accomplishment that I don't want to diminish, but it's nowhere near the point that WINE was at even quite a long time ago.

[0] https://www.darlinghq.org/

xcodebuild CLI to compile iOS apps without a Mac. Seems possible in theory, although there's an ongoing issue some are seeing apparently: https://github.com/darlinghq/darling/issues/488

I wonder if there's opportunity for overlap with darling (https://www.darlinghq.org/) here, somewhat like using WINE on top of actual Windows.

Hi guys, just wanted to make a quick shoutout to Darling since not a lot people seem to know about it, which is a compatibility layer like Wine for Linux, but it allows for MacOS applications instead of Windows apps to be able to run on Linux!

Hi A long time ago i saw an opreating system called ravyn os(it's name was airyx before) and i was impressed by how beautiful they made thier gui to look too similar to apple one's and when i get a bit deeper in thier the code i discovered that thier gui was made by using apple cocoa 😅https://github.com/ravynsoft/ravynos So here's my question could i make a gui library using opengl and make it look like apple cocoa 🤔 or it's not the thing that is made by API like opengl and is made by a ready gui library 🤔

Hi Since a bit longer i found an open source opreating system called ravyn os (it's name was airyx before but it changed now) and i was impressed by how the made thier gui which was too similar to apple cocoa gui but when i get a bit deeper in the gui code i found that they did it by using apple cocoa library 😅 https://github.com/ravynsoft/ravynos So here's my question how could i make an application using a library or even an opreating system that pop up a window with a good looking such as apple or even to design my own style for the window and should i use any API such as vulkan or opengl to make such a thing or this is unnecessary?

Here is the ravyn os https://github.com/ravynsoft/ravynos

My feelings about Mac OS X are similar to the author's. I switched from a Windows XP/FreeBSD dual boot configuration to Mac OS X Tiger back in 2006 when I bought my first modern Mac, a Core Duo MacBook. I've remained a Mac OS X user from Tiger all the way to Mojave. Mac OS X in the 2000s to me was heads-and-shoulders better than the competition. It had a well-designed user interface, and most applications conformed to the Apple Human Interface Guidelines. It also provided me a Unix shell whenever I needed it. In my opinion Mac OS X peaked at Snow Leopard; in fact, I'd be comfortable using Snow Leopard (or even Tiger) as my daily driver today if it supported current hardware and if there were a modern web browser for it. It was a nice marriage of NeXT technology and an updated version of the venerable Macintosh user interface. It felt much more pleasant than Windows of the era (though I admit I liked Windows 7), and the desktop environments for Linux and the BSDs simply didn't compare.

Then came the Tim Cook era, and with it came the gradual locking down of the Mac, both in terms of hardware (for example, the soldering of formerly upgradable components such as RAM and storage) and software (for example, notarization). The user interface also gradually started adopting more iOS influences, which I think take away from the desktop experience. Due to my disappointment with Apple's direction (especially since roughly 2016), I opted not to upgrade my aging 2013 MacBook Air and 2013 Mac Pro with new Macs, instead switching to a Microsoft Surface Pro (running Windows 10) and a custom Ryzen 3900X build (which runs both Windows 10 and FreeBSD). I miss macOS, but I enjoy the openness of PCs, and I enjoy the flexibility of Windows and FreeBSD.

I am keeping an eye on two very interesting projects that attempt to replicate the spirit of early Mac OS X: helloSystem (https://hellosystem.github.io/docs/) and airyxOS (https://airyx.org/). Both projects are based on a FreeBSD foundation, but the major difference between the projects is airyxOS is a much more ambitious attempt to reimplement macOS's infrastructure (even going as far as to aim for supporting "trivial" Cocoa applications), while helloSystem has different (Qt) underpinnings, with an emphasis on replicating the Mac OS X look-and-feel and promoting adherence to the Macintosh Human Interface Guidelines. If these projects become successful, this will provide people who desire the early Mac OS X experience modern systems that will maintain that experience.

As another commenter mentioned, AiryxOS is working on an API-compatible open-source implementation of many macOS Frameworks, however it is incomplete.

Our focus right now is on running FreeBSD and Linux applications. But the https://airyx.org/ project is aiming for source-level compatibility and eventually possibly even binary-level compatibility. If they succeed, maybe the improvements will flow back into FreeBSD and helloSystem one day.

> … Probably best to not try to make BSD into modern Linux which is basically FreeWindows. …

airyxOS, based on FreeBSD, aims to provide "… the finesse of macOS with the freedom of FreeBSD. …".

<https://airyx.org/>

I wish well to projects such as this, however I rarely engage – testing and feedback – because the focus on Apple keyboards is too much for me.

(I taught myself to use the keyboard in a very different way when I switched away from Apple after twenty-something years. I don't intend to un-learn that switch.)

0.5. Wait for airyxOS to be fully complete and run it. It is a freeBSD based system that aims to be compatible with MacOS.