CryptPad VS richdocuments

In my frustration with MS Office, I gave it a chance and searched for MS Office alternatives ... and found https://github.com/cryptpad/cryptpad ! Looks quite nice. Maybe I should set that up on a server.

https://cryptpad.org/

There's a public instance in France to try it out.

CryptPad provides a full-fledged office suite with all the tools necessary for productive collaboration.

I discovered these 3 amazing projects recently:

Cryptpad, essentially google docs/sheets/forms e2e encrypted. It does include collaboration. https://github.com/cryptpad/cryptpad

Immich, google photos self hostable, with share options https://github.com/immich-app/immich

Nginxproxymanager manages certificates and proxies to self hosted stuff through nginx https://github.com/NginxProxyManager/nginx-proxy-manager

Great self hosting stuff!

I work for XWiki SAS. Two products we develop have it:

- XWiki, a extensible wiki platform, experimentally [1] but soon to be fully supported

- CryptPad [2], an end-to-end encrypted collaborative platform. And actually, CryptPad was accidentally born as a first attempt to have this feature in XWiki.

[1] https://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Realti...

[2] https://cryptpad.org/

Hey, very happy to see you so enthusiastic!

I'll be sure to transmit your feedback to the CryptPad team.

I'm not an expert myself so while I might know some stuff, it'd be better to talk to them directly.

Come say hello on the Matrix #cryptpad-general channel [1], don't hesitate to open issues on the bug tracker, and to browse the CryptPad's website [2].

[1] https://matrix.to/#/#cryptpad-general:matrix.xwiki.com

[2] https://cryptpad.org/

https://cryptpad.org https://cryptpad.fr

It's not LibreOffice, but while revisiting CryptPad (which I thought was a multiplayer notepad like etherpad or codimd, except with an encryption key in the url fragment identifier) I was impressed to see that they're expanding to become an entire office suite. You get a WYSIWYG editor (I'd rather wish for markdown but ok), spreadsheet editor, survey forms, and more which I don't remember, all live like google docs but (as I understand it, I didn't audit it) end to end encrypted between the users. It's a bit sluggish because everything has to happen on the client side, so it's a lot of JavaScript, but after the page loads it works smoothly. You can self host it as well, there's a list of instances somewhere on https://cryptpad.org with the official instance being https://cryptpad.fr

LibreOffice has a ton more features and is way harder to port. Case in point: I was at an open source conference where LibreOffice proudly demo'd their new server version, saying it used mapnik. Me, confused, asked huh why'd you use an OpenStreetMap rendering library? Turns out they basically run the ancient C++ UI on the server and make a VNC-like connection and that map tiles is the easiest or fastest way to load the screen. At least, that's what I remember from that presentation, I haven't looked into that madness further, but that's LibreOffice online...

Currently I'm looking at https://cryptpad.org/. But maybe there is an alternative that sucks even less?!

You should be able to do this with nextcloud Office: https://nextcloud.com/collaboraonline/ It’s basically like google docs, so med students should be pretty familiar with the look and feel.

I also looked at the documentation here https://github.com/nextcloud/richdocuments which has a section for Federated editing. It tells me that I need to update a tag called "frame_ancestors" but when I do and push the new coolwsd.xml file to the docker image, it attempts to restart the service and then fails to ever start it again, but then I'm not sure if that will really fix the problem or not.

Sorry I don't have an answer, but I'm curious how you installed nextcloud office 5? I've tried to research this on several occasions and from what I've read it sounded like "nextcloud office" is just collabora online but rebranded somehow, and I couldn't find instructions on how to install anything other than collabora. The nextcloud/office repo has a link named "Nextcloud office" in the readme that directs to nextcloud/richdocuments repo, where the readme describes it as an app to integrate collabora online, and the about describes it as "collabora online for nextcloud" with a link to nextcloud.com/collaboraonline

Collabora seems to be a leading competitor for real-time document editing, you can see it bundled into Nextcloud Hub here: https://nextcloud.com/collaboraonline/

It can be self hosted as well :D

I solved it. It turns out https://nextcloud.com/collaboraonline/ left an outdated guide for nginx reverse proxy as they changed lool to cool (see my post i have updated it with solved link)

A self-hosted solution like, say, Nextcloud Collabora, or some FOSS groupware software, unless you also hate paying for hosting and maintaining a server.