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FluidFramework
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Ask HN: What Are You Working on This Year?
Have you seen FluidFramework? It's open source (MIT): https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework
I think the first product they're building on it is Loop: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-introduces-loop-a-ne...
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Ask HN: Apps that are built with Git as the back end?
The Office 365 backend uses git to store snapshots of documents. [1]
https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework/tree/main/server...
- Realtime: Multiplayer Edition
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Woe be onto you for using a WebSocket
Full disclosure I work at MSFT and on the fluid framework.
If you are interested in this you may also be interested in the fluid framework, https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework
We use websockets and solve a lot of the state management problem called out here by keeping very little state on the server itself. The primary thing on server is a monotonically increasing integer we use to stamp messages, this gives us total order broadcast which we then build upon: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_broadcast
Here are some code pointers if you want to take a look:
The map package is a decent place to look for how we leverage total order broadcast to keep clients in sync in our distributed data structures:
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Microsoft Launches Google Wave
(Disclosure: Work at Microsoft, but I work in Azure and some open source stuff, not on or directly with Fluid/Office/etc.)
That's just a trademark clause for Microsoft logos and brands. The Fluid Framework itself is [MIT licensed](https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework/blob/main/LICENS...) and doesn't require exposing any of those logos/brands when you use it, so the framework itself is fairly open for usage.
I think the main thing that would slow down adoption for Fluid is that the only "production" backend is an Azure service, which isn't part of the open source Fluid Framework. [Other open source backends](https://fluidframework.com/docs/deployment/service-options/) aren't recommended for productions. Until there are some open source ones, I'd assume adoption will be limited to folks in the Azure ecosystem.
Which looks like Quip, which looks like OneNote, which looks like a million other note-taking apps before it.
I think the more interesting aspect is the extreme coauthoring; it looks like the underlying tech is open source as well which is pretty interesting for a lot of applications: https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework
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The Lost Apps of the 80s
Within the context of the Microsoft-verse, Fluid Framework (https://fluidframework.com) is supposed to be solving similar problems in web apps, although I haven't personally played with it.
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A couple of questions about dotnet from a Java developer :)
Microsoft recently open sourced fluid framework. It is a distributed, consensus based, real time collaboration framework written in typescript. Fluid would keep your clients synced up and your server code would only have to handle when someone hits submit. Fluid Framework
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Fluid Framework discovery
The official documentation and the github repository seem clear.
What are some alternatives?
SyncedStore - SyncedStore CRDT is an easy-to-use library for building live, collaborative applications that sync automatically.
yjs - Shared data types for building collaborative software
automerge - A JSON-like data structure (a CRDT) that can be modified concurrently by different users, and merged again automatically.
teletype-crdt - String-wise sequence CRDT powering peer-to-peer collaborative editing in Teletype for Atom.
osmosis-js - JS reference implementation of Osmosis, a JSON data store with peer-to-peer background sync
Joplin - Joplin - an open source note taking and to-do application with synchronisation capabilities for Windows, macOS, Linux, Android and iOS.
Command Line Parser - The best C# command line parser that brings standardized *nix getopt style, for .NET. Includes F# support
dotted-logootsplit - A delta-state block-wise sequence CRDT
crdt-event-fold - A Haskell library providing a garbage collected CRDT event accumulation datatype.
Dapper - Dapper - a simple object mapper for .Net [Moved to: https://github.com/DapperLib/Dapper]
jsynchronous - Jsynchronous.js - Data synchronization for games and real-time web apps.
zotonic - Zotonic - The Erlang Web Framework & CMS