conjure VS austral

I was going to say, in 2023 I looked around and for Clojure at least Conjure seemed like the best option.

https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features

Unfortunately, in the table linked above the CL support in Conjure is so-so. I'm curious what people use for CL or if it's still slimv/vlime.

I did a write up configuring Conjure with neovim here if that's something that's appealing:

The excellent olical/conjure plugin is now lua (via fennel..) but it was originally written in clojure and you can still see the code on the legacy-jvm branch https://github.com/Olical/conjure/tree/legacy-jvm

Install conjure plugin

> You mean that you accidentally "overwrite" (declare again) a function with the same name as the one you're now declaring, but you didn't mean to?

I mean I use let to bind a variable with the same name as a function. This is idiomatic in Common Lisp, and totally breaks things in most other languages.

> This I'm also curious about, what exactly SLIME gives you that for example Conjure for neovim wouldn't already? Maybe something about continuations perhaps? That seems to be the only feature I've seen from Common Lisp (besides actually being able to compile to binaries) that I'd love to have in Clojure.

I watched a video and it does seem rather complete, but [1] indicates there is no debugger? That's a rather glaring omission. I also don't see a profiler mentioned, and SLIME with SBCL gives me a profiler (down to the assembly level if needed). I'm sure Java in general has great profiling tools, but how are the integrated into the Clojure system?

As an aside, by "continuations" did you mean "restarts"? First-class continuations are a feature of scheme, not CL. Indeed a huge boost to CL productivity is simply allowing you to handle an exception before the stack is unwound.

1: https://github.com/Olical/conjure/wiki/Client-features

Does anyone know if there is a plugin like this one https://github.com/Olical/conjure for golang? Thank you in advance!

i know you said you didn't want source of other clients but this one is pretty simple so sharing just in case. it's from a nvim plugin https://github.com/Olical/conjure/blob/master/fnl/conjure/client/common-lisp/swank.fnl

> But these days folks are mostly used to the C style syntax.

Mostly, but I'm told the new Austral[1] language has syntax very similar to that of Pascal's.

1: https://austral-lang.org/

For the first couple of items on the list, Austral might be a language worth considering:

https://austral-lang.org

It's new so it obviously doesn't have the community of libraries to use, but it does have a very friendly and accessible Pascal-like syntax, while also having a state of the art linear type system.

For something more new look at Austral.

https://austral-lang.org has linear types and doesn’t use RAII but it doesn’t have defer.

there are other languages simpler than rust which have similar functionality to the borrow checker. see e.g. https://austral-lang.org/