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- Embracing Common Lisp in the Modern World
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Use any web browser as GUI, with Zig in the back end and HTML5 in the front end
Reminds me of the approach of CLOG (Common Lisp Omnificent Gui[1]) and its ancestor GNOGA (The GNU Omnificent GUI for Ada[2]).
They also integrate basic components and even graphical UI editor (at least for CLOG), so you can essentially develop the whole thing from inside CL or Ada
[1] https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog
[2] https://github.com/alire-project/gnoga
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Common Lisp: An Interactive Approach (1992) [pdf]
For me David Botton [0] with his work including code, support and videos is doing very nice work in this direction.
I use SBCL for everything but work because I cannot get; we are getting there, but like you say, it’s such a nice experience working interactively building fast that it is magic and it’s painful returning to my daily work of Python and typescript/react. It feels like a waste of time/life, really.
[0] https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog
- CLOG - The Common Lisp Omnificent GUI
- Clog The Common Lisp Omnificent GUI
- Clog – The Common Lisp Omnificent GUI
- Tkinter Designer: Quickly Turn Figma Design to Python Tkinter GUI
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Want to learn lisp?
I was following along on the Windows page and didn't check back on the main README to see if any of the other instructions would help.
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All Web frontend lisp projects
It the answer is "latter", then you could look at Common Lisp and Reblocks (https://40ants.com/reblocks/) or CLOG (https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog).
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How to Understand and Use Common Lisp
I haven't used Clojure professionally in 10 years so with a grain of salt here are my thoughts as only one other person answered...
CL over Clojure: it's the OG Lisp that the creator of Clojure used and wanted to continue using but faced too much resistance from management afraid of anything not-Java/not-Oracle, or not-CLR/not-Microsoft, etc. Clojure shipped originally as "just another jar" so devs could "sneak" it in. If you don't have such a management restriction, why Clojure? If you want to integrate CL with the JVM, you can use the ABCL implementation, there's also something from one of the proprietary Lisps. Some useful CL features that are nice in this domain: conditions and restarts mentioned in a sibling comment (very nice to help interactively develop/debug e.g. a selenium webdriver test), ability to easily compile an exe (perhaps useful for microservices, or just to keep your deployment environment clean and not having to care about Lisp), and ability to easily ship with an open local socket allowing you to SSH in (or SSH port forward) and debug/fix/poke around in production (JVM of course lets you attach debuggers to a running process, even certain billion+ dollar companies will have supervised/limited prod debugging sessions for various hairy cases, but it's not as interactive). You should never hear CL advocates claim you can't scale to large teams/groups of engineers or large multi-million-lines sized projects, though you might oddly hear Clojure advocates sometimes claim you can't (and shouldn't) scale to such large projects -- large groups of engineers are a non-issue for them as well though, the challenge is in hiring, not in the language somehow making it impossible to modularize and keep people from stepping on each other.
Clojure over CL: its integration with the JVM is nicer than ABCL's, so if you do actually want a lot of the great world of Java stuff, it's easier to get at. Database integration libraries are better. Access to libs (Clojure or Java) is via Maven, so it's a larger ecosystem with more self-integrating components (especially around monitoring/metrics) than what's available for Lisp via Quicklisp. Clojure is very opinionated, much of it quite tasteful, and that gives the whole ecosystem a certain consistency. (You can have immutable data structures in CL, you can if you want use [] for literal vectors and make them syntactically important e.g. in let bindings, but not everyone will be on board.) Even though its popularity seems to have stopped growing, at least at the same rate as e.g. Go which it was keeping pace with for a while, it's still popular enough with a bigger community; as a proxy measure there are multiple conferences around the world and good talks at adjacent conferences, whereas Lisp mostly just has one conference in Europe per year and only occasional branching outside of that.
If you're doing a client-side-heavy webapp, ClojureScript is still amazing, CL's answers there aren't very compelling with the exception of CLOG (https://github.com/rabbibotton/clog) which takes an entirely different direction than the usual idea of translating/running Lisp on top of JavaScript and its popular frameworks.
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Will Qt support the Rust language by default? (just curiosity)
As an anecdote, the three top contributors to sixtyfps are ex-Qt people. I think it is not anecdotal that there is at least some degree of overlap and competition between Rust and C++, and that this is a market that surely The Qt Company is watching.
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BeeWare – write Python, run as native everywhere
SixtyFPS (https://sixtyfps.io/) is in progress for Rust, but it is still early days. It also does not technically use a native toolkit (it uses Qt), but I believe that might be on roadmap. For traditional GUI apps, I think the lack of a table or tree widget is the most limiting for the time being. They have stated they intend to remedy that.
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What are the best GUI libraries for a potentially “serious”/large project?
The most promising GUI hasn't been posted here, SixtyFPS. It's in it's early stages and not FOSS, but it's built by some ex-QT cats and has a lot of potential.
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Is there a reliable and documented GUI library out there?
People have been recommending https://sixtyfps.io/ to me.
- Images in sixtyfps
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Is it worth writing a GUI toolkit in Rust?
There is already a project to make a Qt like GUI toolkit in Rust: https://sixtyfps.io/ It is really similar to Qt https://sixtyfps.io/releases/0.1.5/docs/rust/sixtyfps/index.html
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Tauri – Electron alternative written in Rust
People are doing that too. https://sixtyfps.io/ is basically a Qt clone in Rust, actually developed by previous Qt developers.
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I'm giving out microgrants to open source projects for the third year in a row! Brag about your projects here so I can see them, big or small!
spdlog, a pretty useful and more and more commonly used logging library for C++.\ SixtyFPS, an emerging GUI library for Rust, but you can use it in multiple languages. It uses OpenGL or Qt currently as backend (well, it's a new library and they wanted two from the get-go to make sure their abstractions are done right/well enough). They started a company this year for it too.
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Why I choose Electron even when I wanted to use QT
Just so some are not aware, there's a new project called sixtyfps by some people who were in the Qt world for long. I didn't take a deep dive into it but it looks promising.
What are some alternatives?
kandria - A post-apocalyptic actionRPG. Now on Steam!
egui - egui: an easy-to-use immediate mode GUI in Rust that runs on both web and native
stumpwm - The Stump Window Manager
iced - A cross-platform GUI library for Rust, inspired by Elm
awesome-cl - A curated list of awesome Common Lisp frameworks, libraries and other shiny stuff.
DearPyGui - Dear PyGui: A fast and powerful Graphical User Interface Toolkit for Python with minimal dependencies
electron-sbcl-sqlite - A simple boilerplate that builds an Electron app with SBCL and SQLite3 embedded
FLTK - FLTK - Fast Light Tool Kit - https://github.com/fltk/fltk - cross platform GUI development
weblocks - This fork was created to experiment with some refactorings. They are collected in branch "reblocks".
druid - A data-first Rust-native UI design toolkit.
kons-9 - Common Lisp 3D Graphics Project
gtk4-rs - Rust bindings of GTK 4