cl-cookbook VS clojure-style-guide

> the problem with Lisp is that it's sorta bundled with Emacs

What's the problems with Alive, SLT, Slyblime, and Vlime? I mean, I use Emacs, but I was using Emacs before getting into Scheme and CL anyway.

> Every website that teaches Lisp is in ugly HTML+CSS-only style

I dunno, I feel like the Community Spec (<https://cl-community-spec.github.io/pages/index.html>) and the Cookbook (<https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/>) are fine.

> I like the philosophy of (s-exp) but modern lisps have ruined its simplicity for me by introducing additional bracket notations [like this].

Yes, that additional notation is a terrible blight on the perfection that is S-expressions, I wholeheartedly agree.

check out the editor section, there's more than Emacs these days: https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/editor-support.ht...

- https://github.com/CodyReichert/awesome-cl for libraries

- https://www.classcentral.com/report/best-lisp-courses/#ancho...

- a recent overview of the ecosystem: https://lisp-journey.gitlab.io/blog/these-years-in-common-li... (shameless plug, on HN: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34321090)

Q4: the Cookbook should get you straight to the point: build a website, web scraper, DB access, reference of data structures… https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/

It's a good book!

Modern companions would be:

- the Cookbook: https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/ (check out the editors section: Atom/Pulsar, VSCode, Sublime, Jetbrains, Lem...)

- https://github.com/CodyReichert/awesome-cl to find libraries

Also:

- https://stevelosh.com/blog/2018/08/a-road-to-common-lisp/

- https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34321090 2022 in review

https://leanpub.com/lovinglisp -- this one is great, and the first thing I recommend

https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/ -- also great and up to date

https://awesome-cl.com/ -- for anything else.

Little help to boost your videos: https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/ look at the banner. Cheers.

For more beginner-friendly, I suggest P. Siebels Practical Common Lisp or The CL Cookbook. Both of those should be available in Emacs info format! If authors are lurking in here :-)

the code snippet used for the example is here: https://github.com/LispCookbook/cl-cookbook/pull/472

Fixed link to that style guide entry: https://guide.clojure.style/#opt-commas-in-map-literals

Per that style guide, the above map would be formatted like this (on HN, just indent by two spaces):

  {:a 1

As for the broader question of Clojure style, there are style guides like https://github.com/bbatsov/clojure-style-guide and tools like clj-kondo to help learn and reinforce important practices.

Basically, you learn the expected places to put whitespace, make sure to edit your code accordingly and all of the parens will be automatically closed and adjusted. Using parinfer—which you can also combine with the more traditional paredit—makes writing Clojure code a lot like writing Python.

Also, there are guidelines, the styleguide, clj-kondo, kibit etc. And if you don't review your interns/juniors code to teach them good practices - you're doing it wrong (well, this one is true for any practical PL out there).

Another good resource is https://guide.clojure.style/ -- the (unofficial) community style guide for Clojure.

It's not an answer to your question but i can refer you to https://github.com/bbatsov/clojure-style-guide

The same could be said about the "Clojure Style Guide" from the Cider guy. As a matter of fact, there was an issue about it that was quickly declined https://github.com/bbatsov/clojure-style-guide/issues/232

Formatting is not that great, see https://github.com/bbatsov/clojure-style-guide btw