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cjdns
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The Hidden World Of Dumps Store | CVV Shops: The Lucrative World of Credit Card Fraud!
This sub is not about TOR and all the seediness that goes on there but rather about creating darknets, by which we/they mean mesh networks and encrypted networks using tools like https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/
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Question for Network Admins, do you use IPv6?
One of my favorite projects in IPv6 space is the CJDNS project: LINK TO GITHUB
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Tailscale/golink: A private shortlink service for tailnets
From a purely networking perspective, there are far better solutions than tailscale.
Have a look at full mesh VPNs like:
https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns
https://github.com/yggdrasil-network/yggdrasil-go
https://github.com/gsliepen/tinc
https://github.com/costela/wesher
These build actual mesh networks where every node is equal and can serve as a router for other nodes to resolve difficult network topologies (where some nodes might not be connected to the internet, but do have connections to other nodes with an internet connection).
Sending data through multiple routers is also possible. They also deal with nodes disappearing and change routes accordingly.
tailscale (and similar solutions like netbird) still use a bunch of "proxy servers" for that. You can set them up on intermediate nodes, but that have to be dealt with manually (and you get two kinds of nodes).
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Ask HN: What's in Networking?
I'm excited about P2P/decentralized/distributed overlay networks. Still catching up so would be grateful for tips on resources.
Pinecone[0][1], newer initiative made by former Yggdrasil[2] maker(s).
CJDNS[3].
AIUI CJDNS relies on intermediary high-uptime discoverable router nodes which is what is motivating Pinecone. POKT[4][5] to CJDNS seems like what Filecoin is to IPFS.
I'm yet to get around to doing the groundwork of grokking more established solutions like B.A.T.M.A.N. and how all these pieces fit together,
[0]: https://fosdem.org/2022/schedule/event/matrix_p2p_pinecone/
[1]: https://github.com/matrix-org/pinecone
[2]: https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/
[3]: https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/
[4]: https://www.pokt.network/
[5]: https://piped.kavin.rocks/watch?v=-xgRUAA_p5E
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Analysis of new data on the Bitcoin network. There may be more of us than we think!
CJDNS, a further step towards automatic and cryptographically secure nodes at the protocol level#23077
- PKT is the only layer 1 protocol blockchain that is powered by bandwidth. We believe access to the internet is a human right and the PKT Network was created to connect the next billion people. Caleb James DeLisle is here to answer your questions in this AMA
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CJDNS Information
I know there is the Whitepaper. Maybe I miss the part, but I am looking how the path/next Hop is generated.
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Yggdrasil P2P mesh E2EE IPv6 network
yggdrasil is a cjdns clone with different routing
cjdns has a whitepaper
https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns/blob/master/doc/Whitepape...
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Remote code execution in cdnjs of Cloudflare
I was really excited for a moment, because I thought this was cjdns https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns.
- Wiretrustee: WireGuard-Based Mesh Network
tinc
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Would we still create Nebula today?
But both Nebula and tinc max out at around 1 Gbit/s on my Hetzner servers, thus not using most of my 10 Gbit/s connectivity. This is because they cap out at 100% of 1 CPU. The Nebula issue about that was closed due to "inactivity" [2].
I also observed that when Nebula operates at 100% CPU usage, you get lots of package loss. This causes software that expects reasonable timings on ~0.2ms links to fail (e.g. consensus software like Consul, or Ceph). This in turn led to flakiness / intermittent outages.
I had to resolve to move the big data pushing softwares like Ceph outside of the VPN to get 10 Gbit/s speed for those, and to avoid downtimes due to the packet loss.
Such software like Ceph has its own encryption, but I don't trust it, and that mistrust was recently proven right again [3].
So I'm currently looking to move the Ceph into WireGuard.
Summary: For small-data use, tinc and Nebula are fine, but if you start to push real data, they break.
[1]: https://github.com/gsliepen/tinc/issues/218
[2]: https://github.com/slackhq/nebula/issues/637
[3]: https://github.com/google/security-research/security/advisor...
- Which overlay network?
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Tailscale/golink: A private shortlink service for tailnets
From a purely networking perspective, there are far better solutions than tailscale.
Have a look at full mesh VPNs like:
https://github.com/cjdelisle/cjdns
https://github.com/yggdrasil-network/yggdrasil-go
https://github.com/gsliepen/tinc
https://github.com/costela/wesher
These build actual mesh networks where every node is equal and can serve as a router for other nodes to resolve difficult network topologies (where some nodes might not be connected to the internet, but do have connections to other nodes with an internet connection).
Sending data through multiple routers is also possible. They also deal with nodes disappearing and change routes accordingly.
tailscale (and similar solutions like netbird) still use a bunch of "proxy servers" for that. You can set them up on intermediate nodes, but that have to be dealt with manually (and you get two kinds of nodes).
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Tunneling to Synology NAS without opening ports.
Two other options are Tinc https://tinc-vpn.org/ or Nebula https://www.defined.net/nebula/
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Port Forward Security & Alternatives
And there is Tinc; the OG overlay network. I don't have experience with this. Seemed a bit of a pain to setup. https://tinc-vpn.org
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WireGuard multihop available in the Mullvad app
For what its worth I have used the open source Tinc VPN [1] for mesh multihop routing for ages. It is nowhere near as fast as Wireguard but I could envision Tinc incorporating support for Wireguard if the author were so inclined. Like you mentioned Tinc does not mesh with other VPN's AFAIK.
[1] - https://tinc-vpn.org/
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You may not need Cloudflare Tunnel. Linux is fine
This is actually very simple in concept and is just as simple or even simpler to do with tinc (https://tinc-vpn.org).
Since I can use tinc in bridge mode, I can run tinc on the upstream server and on a local machine which then provides access to several physical machines without running extra software on each of those machines, which is particularly useful for machines that are resource limited, like my Macintosh LC II and LC III+:
http://elsie.zia.io/
It'd be nice if it weren't so difficult to get public addresses.
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Tinc Is Not Catan
I clicked expected some broken analogy between https://tinc-vpn.org/ and the Catan board game, but instead it is a Catan implementation. Fair enough.
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Graphviz: Open-source graph visualization software
will generate a real-time network graph using the Graphviz DOT language. It's a cool feature that I find quite useful.
[0] https://tinc-vpn.org/
What are some alternatives?
yggdrasil-go - An experiment in scalable routing as an encrypted IPv6 overlay network
OpenVPN - OpenVPN is an open source VPN daemon
ZeroTier - A Smart Ethernet Switch for Earth
Nebula - A scalable overlay networking tool with a focus on performance, simplicity and security
headscale - An open source, self-hosted implementation of the Tailscale control server
SoftEther - Cross-platform multi-protocol VPN software. Pull requests are welcome. The stable version is available at https://github.com/SoftEtherVPN/SoftEtherVPN_Stable.
wg-meshconf - WireGuard full mesh configuration generator.
tailscale - The easiest, most secure way to use WireGuard and 2FA.
cdnjs - 🤖 CDN assets - The #1 free and open source CDN built to make life easier for developers.