c-toxcore VS Element

Signal isn't falling behind and Tox is an old service that has had issues with messages being spoofable since day 1

tox https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426

You could use a Tox front end like qTox or Toxic. It is a fully encrypted end-to-end communication protocol that allows text, voice, and video chat. The github page for the Tox protocol has some useful caveats about the its security.

It links to a bug report discussion where one of the developers states that they don't understand the security properties of tox very well[1].

I find that worrying.

[1] https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426

They're vulnerable to Key-Change-Interception attacks in a case where a key is stolen from somebody who you're already contacted with. That's a pretty big "if" for people who's concern is dragnet surveillance and not targeted surveillance. https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/issues/426 Also up-to-date Tox clients have a fix for it, apparently, looks like they're holding off on closing the issue until every official client has the fix.

Tox is experimental and has very concerning issues.

Ouch! Yeah, that was around the time I tried out Tox – did not know about this, though. It's been four years since they were made aware of that crypto hazard, and it seems they have eliminated it.

Tox has experimental crypto and major vulnerabilities. I wouldn't recommend using it and expecting reasonable security.

aTox also uses an unmodified version of the version of Toxcore that Toxic, uTox, qTox, etc all use: https://github.com/TokTok/c-toxcore/ TRIfA uses its own fork of Toxcore: https://github.com/zoff99/c-toxcore

Element - Secure Messenger (version 1.4.32): Group messenger - encrypted messaging, group chat and video calls

This service is an open source, decentralized, discord-like platform called Element. To get started, create an account at https://element.io. Optionally, download the app, although it's accessible from your browser. Once you are in the app, go to the plus button on the top-right, which will reveal a menu. Click "Join Public Room".

Thanks for the suggestion! I have taken a peek at Tauri although I haven't tried it. I've been following this thread to see how it plays out, though the results aren't encouraging so far. https://github.com/vector-im/element-web/issues/17948

Element is a great decentralized Discord alternative for E2E chats and large channels. It can even be used from within a browser, similar to Discord or Telegram.

It's not quite there yet, but keep an eye on Matrix. It has a lot of different clients, the official one being Element, which just had conference-style (joinable and leavable at will) voice and video channels enter beta.

maybe consider https://element.io/ as alternative to discord its more secure and end-to-end encrypted