buildkit VS buildah

At the very real risk of talking out of my ass, the new versioned Dockerfile mechanism on top of builtkit should enable you to do that: https://github.com/moby/buildkit/blob/v0.15.0/frontend/docke...

In true "when all you have is a hammer" fashion, as very best I can tell that syntax= directive is pointing to a separate docker image whose job it is to read the file and translate it into builtkit api calls, e.g. https://github.com/moby/buildkit/blob/v0.15.0/frontend/docke...

But, again for clarity: I've never tried such a stunt, that's just the impression I get from having done mortal kombat with builtkit's other silly parts

The currently proposed solution is to allow Docker to bind the cache directory in the build to a directory on the host. This way the cache could be persisted externally. However, this issue has been opened for almost 4 years (May 27, 2020) with no clear answer as to whether it'll be implemented any time soon.

> We are uding docker-in-docker at the moment

You can also run a "less privileged" container with all the features of Docker by using rootless buildkit in Kubernetes. Here are some examples:

https://github.com/moby/buildkit/tree/master/examples/kubern...

https://github.com/moby/buildkit/blob/master/examples/kubern...

It's also possible to run dedicated buildkitd workers and connect to them remotely.

- BuildOp evaluates its input as additional LLB operations to add to the graph to allow for dynamic build graphs (also unused in the Dockerfile frontend)

With the Dockerfile Explorer, we run the Dockerfile frontend[1] that BuildKit uses inside of WASM to parse and produce the LLB output locally in your browser. We then embed the Monaco Editor so that you can change your Dockerfile to see how it impacts the LLB output that BuildKit will use to build your Docker image.

You can see a quick video and read more details on how it all works here: https://depot.dev/blog/dockerfile-explorer.

We'd love any feedback or ideas folks would like around this type of tool!

[0] https://github.com/moby/buildkit#exploring-llb

Now since Kubernetes works off of containerd I'll be taking a different approach on handling container builds by using nerdctl and the buildkit that comes bundled with it. I'll do this on the amd64 control plane node since it's beefier than my Raspberry Pi workers for handling builds and build related services. Go ahead and download and unpack the latest nerdctl release as of writing (make sure to check the release page in case there's a new one):

There's a 2-year-old moby/buildkit GitHub issue about frequent build cache misses when using the BuildKit docker-container driver and multi-stage builds. Anyone else in this sub run into this problem and/or have reasonable workarounds? It seems like something that should come up pretty often.

A couple months ago I encountered a bug in buildkit - when enabling OpenTelemetry tracing, we got occasional panics. With a bit of investigation, we found the cause, fixed and tested in our fork and internal deployments, and pushed to upstream.

I do some search in the internet and there seems to be no good solution, so I just create a feature request: https://github.com/moby/buildkit/issues/3859

If $PROGRAMMING_LANGUAGE = go, you might be looking for https://github.com/containers/storage which can create layers, images, and so on. I think `Store` is the main entry: https://pkg.go.dev/github.com/containers/storage#Store

Buildah uses it: https://github.com/containers/buildah/blob/main/go.mod#L27C2...

Like wayland, podman was one of those things that took a lot of "I'll give it another shot? Nope, not ready" before I could switch.

Lately the only real incompatibility I run in to with podman is that the handling of `RUN --mount=type=secret` in a Containerfile/Dockerfile is a bit broken (https://github.com/containers/buildah/issues/5282).

I wish we would rather get rid of Dockerfile in favor of something like buildah does:

https://github.com/containers/buildah/blob/main/examples/lig...

Since Dockerfile is a rather limited and (IMHO) poorly executed re-implementation of a shell script, why not rather use shell directly? Not even bash with coreutils is necessary: even posix sh with busybox can do far more than Dockerfile, and you can use something else (like Python) and take it very far indeed.

For the task of building the graph image, my first idea was to rely on buildah. In fact, our design was already heavily relying on containers/image for all things regarding copying images from one registry to the other, or from one registry to an archive. The obvious choice was to use the same suite of modules in order to keep dependencies to a minimum.

I appreciate that podman can run daemonless, but I've gotten tired of waiting for them to implement heredoc support and have continued to use docker.

You do realize that, under the hood, buildah uses a container engine (runc by default)? See https://github.com/containers/buildah/blob/main/docs/buildah...

buildah

I found this small tutorial: https://github.com/containers/buildah/blob/main/docs/tutorials/04-include-in-your-build-tool.md and it works.

# https://github.com/containers/buildah/issues/3666 volume /var/lib/containers

Last week, Buildah version 1.29 was also released. The prune command has been added to clean intermediate images as well as the build and mount cache.  Support for the –group-add option to the from and build commands was added. One useful feature of this, it to use the –group-add keep-groups option, which allows rootless users to take advantage of their group access to file and devices mounted into the build containers. And the –cache-from and –cache-to options for the build command now allow for multiple sources. This can be used to improve the speed of builds, especially in CI/CD environments.