Blitz VS phoenix_live_view

Blitz is also an open-source project that allows users to access the code and allows to contribute. Their community has generated a lot of impact as well, and has grown rapidly over time since the creation in 2020:

Not yet, I actually just whipped it up quickly last week after I was browsing the Notion subreddit and it reminded me of myspace.

These are the tools I used:

* BlitzJS (https://github.com/blitz-js/blitz)

Maybe you could help/join this project? https://github.com/blitz-js/blitz

Hello, I'm the creator of Blitz.js (first announced 2.5 years ago)

Today the Blitz.js 2.0 pivot to a modular Next.js toolkit reached Beta status [1]

Previously Blitz abstracted Next.js, but Blitz 2.0 is now a modular toolkit that plugs into any new or existing Next.js app. Blitz picks up where Next.js leaves off, providing libraries and conventions for shipping and scaling small to large apps.

When I first created Blitz, my aim was to have an all-in-one fullstack framework for Javascript like Ruby on Rails. But that proved to be too difficult. I've decided that achieving an all-in-one framework for JS like Rails is too difficult unless you have a ton of funding and don't have to make meaningful money.

The difference with JS is that client-side frameworks like React have an incredible amount of complexity. Trying to manage all of that and all the other fullstack framework stuff like API layers, auth, file uploads, etc is too large of scope.

So now Blitz is no longer trying to do it all and is focusing on all the non-frontend functionality you need to ship web apps.

Going forward, we want to be the most trusted technical resource for rapidly building and scaling full-stack TypeScript apps.

[1] https://github.com/blitz-js/blitz/releases/tag/v2.0.0-beta.1

Ironically, a couple days ago the Blitz lead posted an RFC proposing that they shift from being a fork of Next to being a separate lib focusing on the data/auth layer:

https://github.com/blitz-js/blitz/discussions/3075

blitz/recipes at canary · blitz-js/blitz

Then there are stack-specific libraries: StimulusReflex for Rails, Phoenix LiveView, Laravel Livewire, Unicorn and Tetra for Django, Blazor for .NET, … and the list goes on.

I came across this pretty interesting library on Hacker News that tries to implement LiveView on the JVM. Link to GitHub.

Hi everyone, I just launched Podsee(https://pods.ee) for podcast listeners, lovers. You can search and listen to podcasts at Podsee. What makes it different is that you can get the AI transcript for an episode.

It started as a side project after I resigned my job one year ago. As a programmer, I love Elixir (http://elixir-lang.org/) and Phoenix LiveView(https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view), and want to make a product with it. So I build Podsee.

I'm planning to add more AI features to it, like summarize the episode audio, episode to comics, etc.

I'd love to invite you all to try out the product and would appreciate hearing your feedback! Thanks!

"HTML over the wire" generally refers to tech like [0] Liveview, [1] Hotwire, [2] LiveView, [3] Blazor, etc. They aren't about about ditching JS and more about not writing your HTML in JS (and yes, SSR).

[0] https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view

* https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view

Some of the 1.7 stuff has an alert banner that pops up when the connection is broken. I think that could really help.

However I haven't put that in our app as I have seen other issues of flakey connection reconnect issues, and I would hate to make any of those more visible with a flashing notice.

- https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/issues...

HEEx template language was created, an extension to EEx

Also to your point, the latest LiveView release moved some helper utilities around and you need to add "import Phoenix.Component" in places. I could be wrong but I think the latest live code gen still isn't setting up correct imports. More info here: https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md

If you need any kind of interactivity on the frontend, but are more comfortable with the backend, I would suggest looking at Phoenix LiveView [0] or a similar server-rendered HTML technology for your language of your choice [1].

In short, these solutions take JavaScript out of the mix entirely and basically let you deal with a single logical "app", rather than a separate frontend & backend.

[0] https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view

It uses JS though, as it is required to open a WS connection and change content without refreshing the page, but that looks like it is abstracted from the user. https://github.com/phoenixframework/phoenix_live_view/tree/master/priv/static