beego VS pagoda

You should probably stop because this is not a Go-way. And you wan't find anything with "batteries" other than https://github.com/gobuffalo/buffalo and https://github.com/beego/beego

Haven't see anyone actually using them in production though.

When I googled and looked around, there are a few web frameworks for Go. Some of the ones that looked the most "cmoplete" or similar to Rails -- from my googling without really knowing the details -- were revel, gorilla, and beego. Although it looks like gorilla is no longer developed.

And beego.vip times out in my browser.

IDE: use whatever make you productive. I personally use vscode. VCS: git, as golang communities use github heavily as base for many libraries. AFAIK Linter: use staticcheck for linting as it looks like mostly used linting tool in go, supported by many also. In Vscode it will be recommended once you install go plugin. Libraries/Framework: actually the standard libraries already included many things you need, decent enough for your day-to-day development cycles(e.g. `net/http`). But here are things for extra: - Struct fields validator: validator - Http server lib: chi router , httprouter , fasthttp (for non standard http implementations, but fast) - Web Framework: echo , gin , fiber , beego , etc - Http client lib: most already covered by stdlib(net/http), so you rarely need extra lib for this, but if you really need some are: resty - CLI: cobra - Config: godotenv , viper - DB Drivers: sqlx , postgre , sqlite , mysql - nosql: redis , mongodb , elasticsearch - ORM: gorm , entgo , sqlc(codegen) - JS Transpiler: gopherjs - GUI: fyne - grpc: grpc - logging: zerolog - test: testify , gomock , dockertest - and many others you can find here

Guys, can u enter beego.vip? I can't enter the site and I have already tried to enter it with different networks provider and vpn services.

High-level frameworks can easily be built in Go and have been many times. Some examples: https://github.com/gobuffalo/buffalo, https://github.com/beego/beego. There are actual reasons frameworks aren't great, but there are certainly uses for them, specifically when you need to get things done quickly. However, I'd go for a somewhat lower-level, more lightweight framework that doesn't do as much for you, like Echo.

there are some rails like frameworks in Go too, like: https://github.com/gobuffalo/buffalo or https://github.com/beego/beego

Website: https://beego.vip

Recently, I have stumbled across this one: https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda

I'd like to make a small plug for a really awesome Golang web development starter kit I found recently called pagoda (https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda). It wires up HTMX, together with Alpine.js and Bulma CSS, onto a really fantastic collection of Go libraries on the back end.

Well said. The 'no big framework' thing works for Go because the Go standard library defines a common way for dealing with HTTP. The difficulty, then, is identifying 3rd party packages that play well with the rest of the ecosystem.

You can see the opposite in projects like Echo, Gin, Beego, etc., that eschew the standard library to various degrees and try to build the kitchen sink themselves. Sometimes this works! Echo is very popular, despite having nonstandard handlers and context. An absolute Go newbie is probably going to have an easier time using it than trying to pick out the best collection of libraries themselves.

I would love to see more 'blessed stack' collections that tie together good libraries such as this one: https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda

The readme doesn't seem to mention or list what libraries this depends on, it has chi and jet at least based on the structs section.

Given this "framework" is predominantly a collection of other people's (usually apache/mit) work, where is the BOM/licence text including all of the dependencies?

And why has the author attempted to licence their likely sub 100 lines of glue code under the GPL?

I don't see the point in using something like this which is basically a prefilled go.mod with some other files with a pretty stock organization.

I've used Pagoda (https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda) in the past which makes a show of displaying its nature as a wrapper around a bunch of community libraries, and is documented as such. They also make effort to document the interfaces for each component so you could easily replace them with your own implementations to avoid getting stuck due to the "framework". This is my preferred approach for all of these "starters" now since using pagoda.

I recently came across https://github.com/mikestefanello/pagoda - which is also a very good starter kit. Unfortunately it comes with some tools I personally don't like a lot (yet) - like htmlx for templates. I suppose this is a problem of all starters - you can only build one which is ideal for you, but not for others. But anyway it's simpler to remove/replace unnecessary parts than create everything from scratch.

Pagoda looks really nice