Bazel VS Cap'n Proto

Compare Bazel vs Cap'n Proto and see what are their differences.

Bazel

a fast, scalable, multi-language and extensible build system (by bazelbuild)

Cap'n Proto

Cap'n Proto serialization/RPC system - core tools and C++ library (by capnproto)
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Bazel Cap'n Proto
136 66
22,295 11,163
1.1% 1.5%
10.0 9.3
6 days ago 9 days ago
Java C++
Apache License 2.0 GNU General Public License v3.0 or later
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Bazel

Posts with mentions or reviews of Bazel. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-18.
  • Hello World
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 18 Apr 2024
    Wow, if you curl it, there's a lot of boilerplate code there.

    Maybe built using Bazel?

    https://bazel.build

  • Things I learned while building projects with NX
    5 projects | dev.to | 18 Mar 2024
    Bazel by Google
  • Show HN: Flox 1.0 – Open-source dev env as code with Nix
    17 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 13 Mar 2024
    Luckily a feature to limit the disk cache size is in development: https://github.com/bazelbuild/bazel/issues/5139
  • How to write unit tests in C++ relying on non-code files?
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 22 Feb 2024
    This is a problem that Bazel (https://bazel.build) solves in a very convenient way. You can just keep using the paths relative to the repository root, and as long as you properly declare your test needs that file it will access it without problems. Or you can use the runfile libraries to access them too.
  • blade-build VS Bazel - a user suggested alternative
    2 projects | 28 Jan 2024
  • Bazel 7.0 LTS
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Dec 2023
  • My first Software Release using GitHub Release
    6 projects | dev.to | 24 Nov 2023
    When doing research for this lab exercise I looked at both vcpkg and conan. Both are package managers that would automate the installation and configuration of my program with its dependencies. However, when it came to releasing and sharing my program my options were limited. For example, the central public registry for conan packages is conan-center, but these packages are curated and the process is very involved. There was no way conan-center would accept a class project like mine. Alternatively, I could host a conan package on a public Artifactory repository, but accessing the package requires users to add the repository to their conan remote. This already sounded like too many steps to expect regular users to follow - I already haven't setup any conan remotes, there's no way I could expect regular users to know about conan remotes, let alone have conan installed on their system. After discussing with people online and consulting my instructor, I ultimately decided to do a GitHub release. However, in the future I was encouraged to look into using CMake or bazel.
  • Declarative Gradle is a cool thing I am afraid of: Maven strikes back
    3 projects | dev.to | 11 Nov 2023
    NOTE: I won’t mention SBT and Leiningen here because, with all due respect, they are niche build tools. I also won’t discuss Kobalt for the same reason (besides, it’s no longer actively maintained). Additionally, I won’t touch upon Bazel and Buck in this context, mainly because I’m not very familiar with them. If you have insights or comments about these tools, please feel free to share them in the comments 👇
  • Bazel
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 2 Oct 2023
  • A Modern C Development Environment
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Aug 2023
    > None of this solves C's only REAL problem (in my opinion) which is the lack of dependency management.

    Bazel solves this really nicely, I know some people have strong opinions on it but I cannot recommend it enough

    https://bazel.build/

Cap'n Proto

Posts with mentions or reviews of Cap'n Proto. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2024-04-09.
  • Mysterious Moving Pointers
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 14 Apr 2024
    Yeah I pretty much only use my own alternate container implementations (from KJ[0]), which avoid these footguns, but the result is everyone complains our project is written in Kenton-Language rather than C++ and there's no Stack Overflow for it and we can't hire engineers who know how to write it... oops.

    [0] https://github.com/capnproto/capnproto/blob/v2/kjdoc/tour.md

  • Show HN: Comprehensive inter-process communication (IPC) toolkit in modern C++
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 9 Apr 2024
    - may massively reduce the latency involved.

    Those sharing Cap'n Proto-encoded data may have particular interest. Cap'n Proto (https://capnproto.org) is fantastic at its core task - in-place serialization with zero-copy - and we wanted to make the IPC (inter-process communication) involving capnp-serialized messages be zero-copy, end-to-end.

    That said, we paid equal attention to other varieties of payload; it's not limited to capnp-encoded messages. For example there is painless (<-- I hope!) zero-copy transmission of arbitrary combinations of STL-compliant native C++ data structures.

    To help determine whether Flow-IPC is relevant to you we wrote an intro blog post. It works through an example, summarizes the available features, and has some performance results. https://www.linode.com/blog/open-source/flow-ipc-introductio...

    Of course there's nothing wrong with going straight to the GitHub link and getting into the README and docs.

    Currently Flow-IPC is for Linux. (macOS/ARM64 and Windows support could follow soon, depending on demand/contributions.)

  • Condvars and atomics do not mix
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 24 Mar 2024
    FWIW, my C++ toolkit library, KJ, does the same thing.[0]

    But presumably you could still write a condition predicate which looks at things which aren't actually part of the mutex-wrapped structure? Or does is the Rust type system able to enforce that the callback can only consider the mutex-wrapped value and values that are constant over the lifetime of the wait? (You need the latter e.g. if you are waiting for the mutex-wrapped value to compare equal to some local variable...)

    [0] https://github.com/capnproto/capnproto/blob/e6ad6f919aeb381b...

  • Cap'n'Proto: infinitely faster than Protobuf
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 26 Feb 2024
  • I don’t understand zero copy
    2 projects | /r/rust | 7 Dec 2023
    The second one is to encode data in such a way that you can read it and operate on it directly from the buffer. You write data in a layout that is the same, or easily transformed as types in memory. To do that you usually need to encode with a known schema, only Sized types to efficiently compute fields locations as offsets in the buffer, and you usually represent pointers as offset into the encode. You can look at capnproto protocol for instance https://capnproto.org/
  • OpenTF Renames Itself to OpenTofu
    5 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Sep 2023
    Worked well for Cap'n Proto (the cerealization protocol)! https://capnproto.org/
  • A Critique of the Cap'n Proto Schema Language
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 20 Aug 2023
    With all due respect, you read completely wrong.

    * The very first use case for which Cap'n Proto was designed was to be the protocol that Sandstorm.io used to talk between sandbox and supervisor -- an explicitly adversarial security scenario.

    * The documentation explicitly calls out how implementations should manage resource exhaustion problems like deep recursion depth (stack overflow risk).

    * The implementation has been fuzz-tested multiple ways, including as part of Google's oss-fuzz.

    * When there are security bugs, I issue advisories like this:

    https://github.com/capnproto/capnproto/tree/v2/security-advi...

    * The primary aim of the entire project is to be a Capability-Based Security RPC protocol.

  • Cap'n Proto: serialization/RPC system – core tools and C++ library
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Jul 2023
  • Sandstorm: Open-source platform for self-hosting web app
    15 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 4 Jun 2023
    I like how they use capability-based security [0] and use Cap'n Proto protocol. This is another technology that is slow to get broad adoption, but has many things going for when compared to e.g. Protocol Buffers (Cap'n Proto is created by the primary author of Protobuf v2, Kenton Varda).

    [0] https://sandstorm.io/how-it-works#capabilities

    [1] https://capnproto.org

  • Flatty - flat message buffers with direct mapping to Rust types without packing/unpacking
    4 projects | /r/rust | 10 May 2023
    Related but not Rust-specific: FlatBuffers, Cap'n Proto.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Bazel and Cap'n Proto you can also consider the following projects:

Buck - A fast build system that encourages the creation of small, reusable modules over a variety of platforms and languages.

gRPC - The C based gRPC (C++, Python, Ruby, Objective-C, PHP, C#)

nx - Smart Monorepos · Fast CI

Protobuf - Protocol Buffers - Google's data interchange format

meson - The Meson Build System

FlatBuffers - FlatBuffers: Memory Efficient Serialization Library

Gradle - Adaptable, fast automation for all

ZeroMQ - ZeroMQ core engine in C++, implements ZMTP/3.1

ninja - a small build system with a focus on speed

Apache Thrift - Apache Thrift

turborepo - Incremental bundler and build system optimized for JavaScript and TypeScript, written in Rust – including Turborepo and Turbopack. [Moved to: https://github.com/vercel/turbo]

MessagePack - MessagePack serializer implementation for Java / msgpack.org[Java]