awesome-v VS vos

Clearly plenty of people use it. Project is very active, has over 30,000 stars, and constant releases. Plus: 1.Vlang on Exercism 2. Vlang on Rosetta Code) 3. Awesome V 4. VPM (Vlang Package Manager)

> TIOBE's data is so botched...

Stop deluding yourself. If we take out TIOBE, and use the IEEE's Top Programming Languages of 2022, D is still recognized (even higher than the 30s) while Zig, Nim, or Crystal do not even make their chart. That's the reality.

> Vlang...

To begin with, you are a known troll (with possibly multiple troll accounts at HN) that has spent over an year engaging in slander and lies about the language almost any time it's mentioned.

Looks like you are the creator or involved with some other language that can't get as much support or popularity. It would be advisable for you to stop being obsessed with Vlang. How many years of your life will you waste on such childish antics? You would be better off focusing on making your programming language better, if it's not already too late and its a failure.

As for pushing this bold face lie that the language is a "scam", that's both ludicrous and easily proven false. Vlang has many hundreds of code examples and projects. Easily found at: 1) Vlang examples on GitHub (vlang/V/tree/master/examples). 2) Vlang at Rosetta Code (https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Category:Vlang). 3) Awesome Vlang at GitHub (https://github.com/vlang/awesome-v).

The "scam" is you tricking yourself into thinking that your troll tactics are working. Instead, your continual defamation is making what you are even more obvious.

Where I totally agree with you is about how we can have different interpretations of what this involves. Thus, I kind of go with examples and projects. Awesome V on GitHub, would probably be a good place to find something, if a person wanted to get into some significant projects, but don't know how deep the OP wants to go.

https://github.com/vlang/awesome-v

The creator of V made some big claims that raised a few eyeballs, they've gained a reasonable following over the years, have a pretty serious looking website (https://vlang.io) a beer-money level Patreon following and some corporate partnerships/sponsors. However have experienced some pretty brutal takedowns over the years, with some of the bolder claims about the language/compiler being exposed as being.

A word I keep seeing in relation to V is "aspirational" - the project aspires to be a serious language with some major features, so I think it's fair to approach it with a more critical eye than one would a kid's side-project. I think HN would have been pretty understanding if they were open about the state of the various features and were a little less defensive when they encounter articles that treat it like a Real Language and review it as such. If the authors don't want this kind of feedback they can just say front-and-centre (or on their FAQ @ https://github.com/vlang/v/wiki/FAQ) "this is a toy" or "this is pre-alpha"

Autofree has existed for years and can work. Here is a demo. It is used in V's Vinix OS, Ved, and other applications. Part of the issue is there are detractors who purposefully spread misinformation nor know about its other memory options, and the other part is understanding how to use it.

Another option is to write the kernel in V. Vinix is an OS written in V. You can use it for reference when building your project.

And that's why vinix [1] is full of manual free call? That tells how good autofree is, isn't it? Can you compile v compiler with autofree? Last time I checked, you can't.

[1] https://github.com/vlang/vinix/search?q=free&type=code

vweb, volt, and ved are not a "little more than alpha"

yes, the os is being developed in V, and it can already run bash, GCC, G++, and Doom.

https://github.com/vlang/vinix

It's a great concept, but languages like Rust (https://www.rust-lang.org/), Zig (https://ziglang.org), Vlang (https://vlang.io/), etc... are already running with a similar idea to being easy to interact with C and are viable alternatives to it as well. Vlang even created its own OS, Vinix (https://github.com/vlang/vinix), to show its capabilities in this regard.

Seems to me, Cello would be more for those C programmers that didn't want to try the various alternative languages that are now out, and happen to agree with its developer's interpretation of what high level constructs would look like. The point of these alternative languages is to offer features that C doesn't have or to implement them in easier or clearer ways.

Vinix shows the capabilities of V on bare metal, in additional to it being useful for high-level programming as well. https://github.com/vlang/vinix