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arewegameyet
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Is rust suitable for multiplayer games?
arewegameyet
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Someday, maybe, we will be game. I hope.
"While the ecosystem is still very young, you can find enough libraries and game engines to sink your teeth into doing some slightly experimental gamedev."
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Egregoria is a city simulation with high granularity
I think Rust for games has come really far. I will cite https://arewegameyet.rs/ "Almost. We have the blocks, bring your own glue.".
All the blocks are there and the language is really well suited to games.
On top of my head:
The pros:
- The crate ecosystem and the package manager makes it really easy to integrate any useful component such as pathfinding, spatial partitioning, graphics backend, audio system.. Most crates take a lot of effort to be cross-platform so I can develop on linux and not spend too much time debugging windows releases.
- The strong typing and algebraic data types makes expressing the game state very pleasant. I also found I was able to develop a very big game without too many bugs even though I don't write many tests.
- Ahead of time compilation + LLVM guarantees you won't have to optimise for weird things around a virtual machine. Rust gives you more control to optimise hot loops as you can go low-level.
- I find wgpu to be the perfect balance between ergonomics and power compared to Vulkan. OpenGL support through wgpu is also a nice addition for lower end devices.
- The Rust community is very helpful, you can often talk directly to crate maintainers
The cons:
- Compilation times, when compared to JITed languages such as C# can be very painful. It can be alleviated by buying a 3950X but I still often get 10-30s iteration times.
- The static nature of Rust means you often need a dynamism layer above to tweak stuff that can be awkward to manage. I made inline_tweak for this purpose but it's really far from how easy Unity makes it. https://github.com/Uriopass/inline_tweak
- Since Rust feels very ergonomic, you are tempted to write almost all game logic within it, so mod support feels very backwards to implement as you cannot really tweak "everything" like in Unity games. Thankfully "Systems" game like Factorio or Egregoria can be theoretically split into the "simulation" and the "entities" so mod can still have a great impact. Factorio is built in C++ so has the same problematic. Their Lua API surface is quite insane to be able to hook into everything. https://lua-api.factorio.com/latest/
Now, I have to talk about Bevy: https://bevyengine.org/. It did not exist when I started but it is a revolution in the Rust gamedev space. It is a very powerful 100% Rust game engine that makes you write game code in Rust too. It has incredible energy behind it and I feel like if I'd used Bevy from the start I wouldn't have had to develop many core engine systems. Its modular design is also incredibly pleasant as you can just replace any part you don't like with your own.
- What is Rust's potential in game development?
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Struggling to find practical uses for Rust
For practical uses of Rust? Whatever you want to program. People use Rust for game development, GUIs, web dev, and more. Anything where abstraction, speed, concurrency, memory safety, etc. are important, Rust will probably be a good fit.
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Latest Zen Kernel......
Are we game yet? "Almost. We have the blocks, bring your own glue"
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Really frustrated. [Warning: Bit of a negative rant]
Not seeing anything else that's close to photo realistic. I'm hitting the tough bugs first all too often. More than half my time has been spent on ecosystem problems.
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What are some stuff that Rust isn't good at?
I also know of https://arewegameyet.rs/
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Chrome ships WebGPU, a sort-of successor to WebGL. How soon do you see this being adopted by the game dev community?
Yes — and in fact, Firefox's implementation has been the go-to graphics API for folks trying to make Rust gamedev happen for a long time now. Bevy Engine's renderer is built on it, for example.
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Are We <Thing> Yet?
They're all/mostly websites about the state of the Rust language ecosystem. For example, can you write games in Rust (https://arewegameyet.rs/) or what's the state of the async (https://areweasyncyet.rs/)
nannou
- VVVV – A Hybrid Visual/Textual Development Environment
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Can someone help me with ownership and borrowing?
Another idea would be to do something with Nannou, it's pretty straightforward to get some visually pleasing results and I find these Processing/P5 inspired creative coding libraries allow for a lot of exploration and expression. The Coding Train is a YouTube channel which has dozens of these kinds of projects, translating them into Rust certainly is good exercise.
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Hey Rustaceans! Got a question? Ask here (23/2023)!
Assuming you’re talking about https://nannou.cc they advertise a slack, a matrix, and a github org.
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Looking for lib recommendations for developing ui tool
Never used this, no idea If it's what you want, but maybe https://nannou.cc/?
- “Creative Coding” libraries for A/VFX in Rust, a.l.a. Cinder for C++ or Processing for Java?
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A simple 2d graphic library
https://nannou.cc/ may be worth checking out.
- Nannou- a creative coding framework for Rust. .It is a library that aims to make it easy for artists to express themselves with simple, fast, reliable code.
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Nannou – An open-source creative-coding framework for Rust
"creative coding" usually refers to a framework where a developer/artist can code up nice things quickly
for example https://github.com/nannou-org/nannou/blob/master/examples/dr...
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[Media] Genetic algorithm simulation - Smart rockets (code link in comments)
I've exported individual frames using this mechanism, I've never tried gif encoding before but seems like there's support for it,
What are some alternatives?
Godot - Godot Engine – Multi-platform 2D and 3D game engine
rust-skia - Rust Bindings for the Skia Graphics Library
RG3D - 3D and 2D game engine written in Rust [Moved to: https://github.com/FyroxEngine/Fyrox]
macroquad - Cross-platform game engine in Rust.
rust-rdkafka - A fully asynchronous, futures-based Kafka client library for Rust based on librdkafka
racket - The Racket repository
GameDev-Resources - :video_game: :game_die: A wonderful list of Game Development resources.
wgpu - Cross-platform, safe, pure-rust graphics api.
detonator - 2D game engine and editor 💥💣
simple-game - A personal collection of windowing/graphics/game code to get started quickly on games and graphical applications
awesome-bevy - A collection of Bevy assets, plugins, learning resources, and apps made by the community
Cinder - Cinder is a community-developed, free and open source library for professional-quality creative coding in C++.