archiveis VS youtube-dl

I frequently see comments from people explicitly or implicitly asking for links to bypass the paywall on submitted articles. I'm confused by this, since it takes about the same amount of effort to generate your own paywall bypassing link as it does to post a comment asking for someone else to do it. Going further and posting this link for others to use does add a step, but doesn't seem like a lot to ask.

What's happening here?

Do these posters think some special magic is required? Are they not aware that creating such a link just involves going to the top level domain of one of the services (eg, http://archive.is) and pasting the URL into a form?

Are they opposed to the idea of creating such a link themselves, either due to moral qualms or legal fears, but willing a follow a link that some else has created?

Are they using a handheld device that makes it so hard to copy a URL and open a new page that they don't know how to start, whereas they know how to write a comment?

Or are they just so entitled that they think someone else should provide for them at all times, and don't want to demean themselves helping others?

Can anyone who has posted such requests tell me what they were thinking? Can others who post bypass links tell me other explanations? General discussion on what the HN etiquette on paywall bypass links should be is welcomed as well.

Or save a bookmark in your browser and edit its destination to be this Javascript bookmarklet to let you load the archive.is version of any URL you're currently on without even needing to remember the domain or type anything:

javascript:void(location.href='https://archive.is/?run=1&url='+encodeURIComponent(location....)

Or version for IA's Wayback Machine instead:

javascript:void(window.open('https://web.archive.org/web/*/'+location.href))

Or this more complicated version of the Wayback Machine one, which if you click while on an empty tab will instead give you an alert with a text field in which to type or paste whatever URL you want to look up:

javascript:(function()%7Bif(location.href.indexOf('http')!=0)%7Binput=prompt('URL:','http://');if(input!=null)%7Blocation.href='http://web.archiv...

I usually go to https://archive.is/, copy in the link I want to archive, submit, wait a minute, and then you receive the link to the archived article.

Example: if you use therapy services provided by an employer’s benefits package, they could subpoena your therapist for juicy mental health details that they can then use to slander you in court, HIPPA be damned. Example from my own employer doing this: https://archive.is/

AI therapists have no such patient confidentiality regulations, so it would be way easier to do that.

Imagine OpenAI wants to get rid of a problem employee who happens to use a OpenAI-powered therapist. No reason why they wouldn’t.

You can just copy/paste the URL into http://archive.is yourself

To post Zerohedge articles you would have to use a "masking" sites like https://archive.is/ or some such thing to hide the Zerohedge link.

Use this instead: Webpage archive

You just cleared name history, don't worry it's archived on archive.is and steamid.uk though!

Example: archive.is

I see. According to the Web Archive, this website stopped working all the way in November 2023, and http://ytdl-org.github.io/youtube-dl/ now contains all the same content as the old one and is the new "official" website.

youtube-dl is still a thing, last commit was one week ago.

https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/commits/master

> Is there a service that actually gives MP3 downloads?

YouTube with youtube-dl [1] or NewPipe [2].

[1] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl

[2] https://newpipe.net/

See elsewhere in the thread for details, but youtube-dl was restored by Github and is generally not considered to be in violation of the DMCA. You can see it on Github here: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl

A copyright holder abused the DMCA process to take it down the first time.

The best way is to download the source from github, run `make`, and copy the the file to $HOME/bin . There hasn't been a release for about a year now and the files on the distro repos are even older (I think).

Also YouTube has been doing some changes lately on the the player and a lot of the tools fail to download audio or video.

For example, in the last couple of weeks there have been some issues with a redirect to a 'consent page' : https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues/32499