apio VS bsc

Compare apio vs bsc and see what are their differences.

apio

:seedling: Open source ecosystem for open FPGA boards (by FPGAwars)

bsc

Bluespec Compiler (BSC) (by B-Lang-org)
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apio bsc
3 8
753 879
3.5% 1.5%
9.7 8.4
8 days ago 15 days ago
Verilog Haskell
GNU General Public License v3.0 only GNU General Public License v3.0 or later
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apio

Posts with mentions or reviews of apio. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-01-10.
  • Looking for help getting started with TinyFPGA
    1 project | /r/FPGA | 8 Jul 2023
    apio is a python package you drive from the command line. I didn't know somebody had done an integration with Atom. I've installed and used apio on my phone. I wouldn't really recommend doing that, but it shows what's possible.
  • Learning Verilog and FPGA
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Jan 2023
    I've had good experiences using Upduino 3.0 and 3.1 [0] with the IceStorm tools via apio [1]. I wrote a blog post [2] with some info on getting things set up via Linux. All you need is the Upduino board, which interfaces to your host system via USB (so no special programmer is needed).

    [0] https://tinyvision.ai/products/upduino-v3-1

    [1] https://github.com/FPGAwars/apio

    [2] https://daveho.github.io/2021/02/07/upduino3-getting-started...

  • FPGA dev board that's cheap, simple and supported by OSS toolchain
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Jan 2021
    if you're more comfortable with the CLI, you should take a look at the apio project (https://github.com/FPGAwars/apio). It neatly bundles all the required tools. Regarding HDLs, I'm still learning so can't offer any good advice on that.

bsc

Posts with mentions or reviews of bsc. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-03-03.
  • Ao486_MiSTer: i486 core for the MiSTer FPGA gaming system
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Mar 2023
    Many companies do just write entire modern SoCs in straight Verilog (maybe with some autogenerated Verilog hacked in there) with no other major organization tools aside from the typical project management stuff. The load-store unit of a modern CPU alone easily exceeds 10k lines of Verilog. It's a similar thing as people who work with kernels—after all, the page table management code in a modern operating system like Linux is absolutely monstrous but still people are able to understand it well enough to be able to make the changes they need and get out.

    If you are interested in other languages which hope to make this sort of stuff easier, I'd recommend taking a look at design productivity languages like Chisel and it's associated Chipyard [1], SpinalHDL [2], and Bluespec [3]. Each of these are meant to make defining extremely complex hardware more manageable for humans and there's a lot of interesting work going on right now with each of them.

    [1] https://github.com/ucb-bar/chipyard

    [2] https://github.com/SpinalHDL/SpinalHDL

    [3] https://github.com/B-Lang-org/bsc

  • Learning VDHL after knowing Verilog
    2 projects | /r/FPGA | 14 Jan 2023
    What are your thoughts on other HDLs like Chisel or BlueSpec when it comes to better type checking?
  • Is “x' = f(x)” a programming paradigm?
    2 projects | /r/AskProgramming | 9 Nov 2022
    In a previous project we used Haskell that compiled down to Verilog to design hardware. Think along the lines of BlueSpec or Clash. Haskell would force you to spell out the new state as a function of the old state of the system. This would let us do gate-level simulations of the hardware we designed. Coupled with Haskell's penchant for using primes to mean "the new value of", stuff like x' = f x was very common.
  • I'm starting a project to make a Rust-like hardware description language and I need your opinions.
    5 projects | /r/rust | 21 Aug 2022
    You should look at Bluespec, they are doing some interesting stuff.
  • Verilog Is Weird
    4 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Mar 2022
  • Bluespec hardware design language and simulation tools
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 1 Feb 2022
  • MyHDL: Using Python as a hardware description and verification language
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 25 Nov 2021
    And I've been involved in a project that's making heavy use of Bluespec: https://github.com/B-Lang-org/bsc/

    Same problem though - you have to transpile it down to Verilog to use it in anything beyond a simulation.

  • FPGA dev board that's cheap, simple and supported by OSS toolchain
    8 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 10 Jan 2021
    FPGA Thread: Bluespec SystemVerilog is now completely open source, very nice HDL although quite opinionated.

    https://github.com/B-Lang-org/bsc

    it's Haskell underneath (https://xkcd.com/356/)

What are some alternatives?

When comparing apio and bsc you can also consider the following projects:

open-fpga-verilog-tutorial - Learn how to design digital systems and synthesize them into an FPGA using only opensource tools

chisel - Chisel: A Modern Hardware Design Language

UPduino-v3.0 - UPduino 3.0: new 4 layer layout, various other improvements

f4pga-arch-defs - FOSS architecture definitions of FPGA hardware useful for doing PnR device generation.

PipelineC - A C-like hardware description language (HDL) adding high level synthesis(HLS)-like automatic pipelining as a language construct/compiler feature.

edalize - An abstraction library for interfacing EDA tools

linux-on-litex-vexriscv - Linux on LiteX-VexRiscv

icestudio - :snowflake: Visual editor for open FPGA boards

rustylog - A Rust-like Hardware Description Language transpiled to Verilog

fomu-toolchain - A collection of tools for developing for Fomu