Kbd VS kdb

Compare Kbd vs kdb and see what are their differences.

Kbd

Alternative unified APL keyboard layouts (AltGr, Backtick, Compositions) (by abrudz)

kdb

kdb+ Working Group from FINOS Data Technologies program (by finos)
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Kbd kdb
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1.8 5.6
about 2 years ago 2 months ago
APL q
MIT License Apache License 2.0
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Kbd

Posts with mentions or reviews of Kbd. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-10-28.
  • Dyalog APL Keyboard Layouts
    2 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 28 Oct 2023
    Should you wish to type them on a normal keyboard:

    https://abrudz.github.io/lb/apl has a browser bookmarklet which adds an APL language bar to the top of any web page so you can type in any input box with backtick prefixes.

    https://github.com/abrudz/Kbd has a Windows Input Method Editor (IME) that adds system-wide RightAlt+letter combos.

  • Ask HN: Do I need a special keyboard layout to learn array programming?
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 27 Oct 2023
    :d) https://github.com/abrudz/Kbd
  • APL has the highest percentage of trans programmers for the 2nd year in a row, according to Stack Overflow survey
    1 project | /r/transprogrammer | 5 Aug 2022
    I use setxkbmap -layout us,apl -variant ,dyalog -option grp:switch on Linux and https://github.com/abrudz/Kbd on Windows.
  • Ngn/k (free K implementation)
    17 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 May 2022
    This might have been true a couple of years ago but it is totally untrue now.

    I'm not sure why you couldn't use the student version of Dyalog? Sounds like it would have been fine. There are also many more FOSS implementations of array languages now, such as ngn/k and April. https://github.com/phantomics/april

    'only available for Linux' - not true https://github.com/abrudz/Kbd/ and others (also different input modes like `w for ⍵)

    'no community support' - on the contrary there is a big and helpful APL community https://aplwiki.com/wiki/Chat_rooms_and_forums that is (imo) more useful than stackoverflow

    'Dynamic scoping...' - Dyalog's (and other APL's) dfns have lexical scope.

    'The language is extremely terse' - is this meant to be a bad thing?

    'The code tends to be very hacky' - maybe if you write bad code or try and write C in APL (it won't work)

  • Use TAB entry style in Dyalog for Mac?
    3 projects | /r/apljk | 14 Nov 2021
  • Learning APL
    3 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Aug 2021
    In general programming I like to use a keyboard layout which allows typing APL glyphs with Right Alt: https://github.com/abrudz/Kbd

kdb

Posts with mentions or reviews of kdb. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-05-12.
  • Q Coding Guidelines by Finos
    1 project | news.ycombinator.com | 23 Feb 2024
  • Ngn/k (free K implementation)
    17 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 12 May 2022
    > let's say I have a finance team that have never heard of it - why might they be interested?

    In my experience it's very good at quickly developing real-time analytics applications with only a small set of developers. A couple of q developers can develop, maintain and operate the server side of 5 or 6 separate applications without breaking a sweat. Changes come in at a high speed too.

    It's a highly interactive language. A bit like a lisp, you start up a q process, open a port and then you iterate and update your application live without needing to restart. Typically on our projects we've had a well iterated program running in QA for a day or 2 before opening a PR (which becomes more of a formality for getting the solution to the problem into prod at that stage).

    The q language itself is quite wordy. Check the reference page: https://code.kx.com/q/ref/ Many programs written in q consist mainly of the key words with the special operators interspersed. Also see some example libraries: https://github.com/finos/kdb

    It's been a fairly stable language to work with, having few breaking changes between successive versions. q code written 8/9/10 years ago on older versions will most likely still run the same today. We have source code on one project at work which hasn't had a code change in 6 years now (despite moving through different versions 2.8->3.0->3.3->3.5->4.0) and it runs daily without a hiccup.

    Mostly it's a joy working with it because I feel like I get to tell the computer what I want it to do, without also having to tell it how to do it.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Kbd and kdb you can also consider the following projects:

BQN - An APL-like programming language. Self-hosted!

ngn-k-tutorial - An ngn/k tutorial.

kalamine - Keyboard Layout Maker

array - Simple array language written in kotlin

pdp11.jl - PDP-11 Simulator written in Julia

kerf1 - Kerf (Kerf1) is a columnar tick database and time-series language for Linux/OSX/BSD/iOS/Android. It is written in C and natively speaks JSON and SQL. Kerf can be used for trading platforms, feedhandlers, low-latency networking, high-volume analysis of realtime and historical data, logfile processing, and more.

dyalog-apl-extended - Dyalog APL Extended

PDP_11_Simulator - PDP11 Simulator written in APL

aoc2017 - ngn/k

ok - An open-source interpreter for the K5 programming language.