ZeroNet VS Invidious

ZernoNet project: GitHub - HelloZeroNet/ZeroNet: ZeroNet - Decentralized websites using Bitcoin crypto and BitTorrent network

our views on the project are incompatible. i consider it harmful to the community to: - advertise fork as official continuation (the worst parts of this were eventually removed, but the project's website still completely mimics official and there's no indication it's a fork anywhere - ship binaries presumably made out of builds made by disappeared nofish - copypaste changes without attribution

Sure! Here are the domain links to the decentralized alternatives I mentioned: 1 Steemit: https://steemit.com/ 2 Mastodon: https://joinmastodon.org/ 3 Scuttlebutt: https://www.scuttlebutt.nz/ 4 ZeroNet: https://zeronet.io/ 5 Aether: https://getaether.net/ Please note that these links are current as of my knowledge cutoff in September 2021, and there's a possibility that the domains or availability may have changed since then.

so this anonymous person who've been trolling on github issues and editing wikipedia to mislead people there's no up-to-date forks has now published their fork that violates GPL and authors' right to attribution by deleting git history and replacing all contributors (including founder @nofish) with one "(c) ZeroNet" notice (which is meaningless in its own right 'cause there was never legal entity that owned the code by multiple contributors)

https://zeronet.io/ (https://zeronet.io/) is 100% censorship proof. How come? Cause it is not centralized, It is 100% decentralized

Nothing can be censored here. Nothing. https://zeronet.io. read that again. Nothing can be censored because it is 100% decentralized, that is the opposite of centralized power.

Things like that can't happen on decentralized social media like https://zeronet.io/

P.S - There's more networks than just Tor, if you're still interested perhaps you should check them out: https://geti2p.net/en/ https://freenetproject.org/ https://zeronet.io/ https://yggdrasil-network.github.io/ https://lokinet.org/ r/i2p r/freenet r/zeronet r/yggdrasil r/oxen_io

If Elon really valued free speech, he would have invested his billions into developing https://zeronet.io/ to make it popular and very user friendly. 😉

Youtube seems to be doing some A/B testing with the comment system which has made proxies like Invidious and yt-dlp/Newpipe unable to load comments. There is a patch for Invidious [1] which solves this problem but it is not in master yet. I tested it on my own instance and it does solve the problem.

[1] https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/pull/4576

BTW, I don't understand the workaround: https://github.com/iv-org/invidious/pull/4552/files

Which was taken from here: https://github.com/LuanRT/YouTube.js/pull/624

Could anybody explain it to me?

Use a Youtube proxy like Invidious [1], problem solved and you get to subscribe to channels without telling the Beast about your interests. Add Sponsorblock (which supports Invidious) to get rid of any in-stream advertising which remains and you'll be transported back to those hallowed times of yore when men were men, women were women and advertising was something you found in newspapers. Youtube will try to make this harder just like Xitter is trying to make it harder to use proxies like Nitter [2].

[1] https://github.com/iv-org/invidious

[2] https://github.com/zedeus/nitter

Going to drop this here for others who haven't heard of it https://invidious.io/

Now, how do we fix this? YouTube's ad model sucks. Their algorithm sucks. Their front page sucks. They've captured a bunch of creators though so often YouTube is the only place you can find someone.

I want those creators to benefit from me viewing their videos. I want the fact that I view a video and like it to help other people find that video in their recommendations. I want an algorithm that shows me things that are interesting and relevant not one that promotes the spammiest and most ad heavy videos that barely have anything to do with my watch history.

Having an alternative front end is nice but I don't want to rob YouTube of the money they spend on hosting the videos.

So, how do we do this?

Peer to peer fails when there is little interest in something or when most people leech and it sucks for archiving old content.

Hosting it all in one place is super expensive and hard for a small group to manage without turning into YouTube.

Maybe we could find a way for the creators to host their own content and get paid when people view it while being part of a large federated network for easy discoverability?

Please list any projects you know of, I'm sure there are a lot of people here who would be willing to contribute or donate.

Sometimes a half-solution will do, like Invidious or Piped.

[0] https://invidious.io/

[1] https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped

Invidious