Tidal VS FoxDot

So you’re wondering what would making music with code look like? The tools I’m familiar with are TidalCycles, Sonic Pi, and SuperCollider. I’m having a hard time describing what it’s like to make music with tools like these so here’s a video of a performance. One person is live coding the music and the other is live coding the visuals. I think it’s super cool how the music is improvised and built over time by layering commands. Some keywords you could search to see more examples would be Algorave and Livecoding.

https://tidalcycles.org/ is another great example, parsing patterns of text and printing live music.

For sound live coding/algorave sonic pi and tidal cycles are great, both based on supercollider.

I don't know the alternatives but I'm a big fan of https://tidalcycles.org/. People really do crazy things, check out the videos on the front page.

I love when 2 DJs live-code together (on the same document! Editing each other's loops) or when a VJ live-codes some visuals in reaction to the DJ live-coding the music.

If you're interested in ChuCK, there's also Pure Data (a FOSS cousin of the commercial Max/MSP) and SuperCollider and a lot of live coding algorave sorta music things are built on top of SuperCollider like TidalCycles so you can execute lines of code live via a REPL or evaluating blocks of code in a document and generate beats in realtime.

Tidal Cycles! https://tidalcycles.org/

As layer8 mentioned, it is technically Haskell but more specifically a DSL and environment for live coding music.

Pretty fun to play around with!

After digging deeper, I've found TidalCycles tidalcycles.org and that's my favorite Livecoding software. Now you can start programming music without any cost.

The code written in this regard can be found here. My contributions focused on designing, implementing and integrating the Sequence module with the help of the Context module.

Thanks! I used a python library called Foxdot: https://foxdot.org/

My comment won't really be helpful, but it feels like an interesting question to spitball some thoughts...

1. The domain is super important for children's programming. Logo started out doing list processing and word-based games and kids just weren't that into it; it's the turtle that really made it feel real and exciting. Scratch similarly has a really concrete and fun domain (moving sprites). The exact things that good learning environments have (lots of visuals and movement) don't seem very fun when you are blind (though maybe there's ways to experience that output that I'm not aware of).

2. My natural intuition is that voice and music are fun. Maybe there's tactile things I am unaware of. Maybe Lego Mindstorms?

3. FoxDot is a really fun programming environment for creating live music: https://github.com/Qirky/FoxDot – it's very textual, and I'm not sure how easy that is (especially if you are trying to interact while the music is playing). It's based on Supercollider: https://supercollider.github.io/ – it's possible there's other more accessible frontends for Supercollider.

4. Here's something someone did with Supercollider: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-technology-set-up-a-...

5. That reminds me of Makey Makey, which is very tactile and very affordable. But it's basically just an input device. https://makeymakey.com/ – really you can't go wrong getting that and hooking it up to a sound player or having the kid find new and inventive ways to create tactile frontends to it. I'm sure other kids will be impressed with what this kid comes up with. Here's a page on using it with blind kids: https://www.perkins.org/resource/makey-makey-stem-activities...

6. It's OK if it's not "programming" IMHO. Building things with computers is fun and good learning. Giving the kid a new medium to build things is important, with or without complicated logic. I think there is a benefit to what I'll call more inclusively "coding" which is representing your goals and thoughts in some special format, like HTML or music notation or whatever.

7. Speech input and output in the browser is pretty easy and accessible. But I don't know of anything that brings all that together in a programming-like experience. Using GPT I bet there's something possible and not super complicated that could be created today that couldn't have happened a year ago.

FoxDot is probably what you're looking for.

https://foxdot.org/

As for software, I think the 2 most popular live coding environments are FoxDot (which is Python based and works well with Troop), and Sonic Pi (which I don't think has "multiplayer"). Its been a while since I looked into this style of beat making, so maybe things have changed. But these are good places to start.

PureData is a hell of a rabbit hole! You might also want to check out SuperCollider which is more modern. If you want to skip to the fun stuff there's FoxDot and SonicPi. Both are live coding environments built on SuperCollider.

If you want more info on how to code music in python check our website [crashserver.fr] or [FoxDot] - main project in python

you can make cool music with FoxDot and Supercollider

FoxDot

Not sure how they compare feature-wise, but take a look at FoxDot:

https://github.com/Qirky/FoxDot