Fusion VS .NET Runtime

- Even frequent exchanges like, “Hey, I’m heading to Costco, need anything?” where the follow-up is easier spoken than typed, or may require a brief brainstorming - “Oh, remember our neighbors are visiting us on Sunday?”

That’s how 8 years later (2 years ago) me and my co-founder decided to implement a new chat app.

— Technology —

To make it short, I’ll post just one point here: Actual Chat is based on Fusion (https://github.com/servicetitan/Stl.Fusion) - think MobX / computed observables, but distributed. In Actual Chat, the state it manages spans from our servers to every client app, creating an eventually consistent “state mesh”. The unified state management, where clients and servers use exactly the same abstraction to “observe” the changes happening to any bit of content, is quite a challenge from the technology standpoint. IMO it alone deserves a brief look.

P.S. Thank you for reading up to this point!

P.S. The app is created with Fusion, which is another cool thing for Blazor: https://github.com/servicetitan/Stl.Fusion

So there are different ways how you can do this, there are multiple different protocols for Unity, for example. There is also this more generic state replication framework.

There is this lib: https://github.com/servicetitan/Stl.Fusion

The library benchmarked in the article is Stl.Fusion: https://github.com/servicetitan/Stl.Fusion. I've only learned about it today, and the documentation is a bit messy, but that seems to be a really interesting project. The author describes it as a .Net library to quickly develop efficient, distributed, real-time web applications.

Disagree with every "no" here :) The answer is yes, but you need a fairly fancy "extra": https://github.com/servicetitan/Stl.Fusion/

Yes, that is true. I'm not sure about JVM implementation details but the reason the comment says "virtual and interface" calls is to outline the difference. Virtual calls in .NET are sufficiently close[0] to virtual calls in C++. Interface calls, however, are coded differently[1].

Also you are correct - virtual calls are not terribly expensive, but they encroach on ever limited* CPU resources like indirect jump and load predictors and, as noted in parent comments, block inlining, which is highly undesirable for small and frequently called methods, particularly when they are in a loop.

* through great effort of our industry to take back whatever performance wins each generation brings with even more abstractions that fail to improve our productivity

[0] https://github.com/dotnet/coreclr/blob/4895a06c/src/vm/amd64...

[1] https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/blob/main/docs/design/core... (mind you, the text was initially written 18 ago, wow)

If you care about portable SIMD and performance, you may want to save yourself trouble and skip to C# instead, it also has an extensive guide to using it: https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/blob/69110bfdcf5590db1d32c...

CoreLib and many new libraries are using it heavily to match performance of manually intensified C++ code.

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https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/59591

Support zstd Content-Encoding:

We might not be that far away already. There is this issue[1] on Github, where Microsoft and the community discuss some significant changes.

There is still a lot of questions unanswered, but initial tests look promising.

Ref: https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/94620

https://github.com/dotnet/dotnet exists for source build that stitches together SDK, Roslyn, runtime and other dependencies. A lot of them can be built and used individually, which is what contributors usually do. For example, you can clone and build https://github.com/dotnet/runtime and use the produced artifacts to execute .NET assemblies or build .NET binaries.

Yeah, it kind of is. There are quite a few of experiments that are conducted to see if they show promise in the prototype form and then are taken further for proper integration if they do.

Unfortunately, object stack allocation was not one of them even though DOTNET_JitObjectStackAllocation configuration knob exists today, enabling it makes zero impact as it almost never kicks in. By the end of the experiment[0], it was concluded that before investing effort in this kind of feature becomes profitable given how a lot of C# code is written, there are many other lower hanging fruits.

To contrast this, in continuation to green threads experiment, a runtime handled tasks experiment[1] which moves async state machine handling from IL emitted by Roslyn to special-cased methods and then handling purely in runtime code has been a massive success and is now being worked on to be integrated in one of the future version of .NET (hopefully 10?)

[0] https://github.com/dotnet/runtime/issues/11192

[1] https://github.com/dotnet/runtimelab/blob/feature/async2-exp...

Orderby Linq Code Reference

The math of the above is really simple. Microsoft has 13,000 stars on their GitHub profile for their flagship product. SupaBase has 63,000 stars on their GitHub project for their flagship product. 27% of all software developers in the world are using .Net. SupaBase has 4.5 times as many likes as the .Net Core runtime, so they must be 4.5 times as large, right? 4.5 multiplied by 27% becomes 130%. Implying 130% of all software developers that exists on earth are using SupaBase (apparently!)