Publish VS winter

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Publish

A static site generator for Swift developers (by JohnSundell)

winter

Free, open-source, self-hosted CMS platform based on the Laravel PHP Framework. (by wintercms)
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Publish winter
15 17
4,782 1,278
- 1.3%
2.3 8.8
2 months ago 5 days ago
Swift PHP
MIT License MIT License
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Publish

Posts with mentions or reviews of Publish. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2023-11-03.
  • Why You Should Write Your Own Static Site Generator
    10 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 3 Nov 2023
    For Swift there’s https://github.com/JohnSundell/Publish which is a framework to create a static site generator. It’s really good.
  • What’s New in Dart 3: Introduction
    1 project | /r/FlutterDev | 21 May 2023
    - I use a static site generator written in Swift: https://github.com/johnsundell/publish (wouldn't recommend it though). - Vanilla CSS - Minimal JS (no frameworks needed)
  • How to turn a folder of markdown docs into a structured docs section in an app?
    3 projects | /r/iOSProgramming | 29 Nov 2022
    First thing I thought of was John Sundell's Publish, then make all the articles as posts. A bit of HTML work and have it list it as a sidebar with an order metadata of the markdown. You could then use the LocalWebsitePublishPlugin to make it all accessible offline too - though I haven't tested it so I dont know if it works or not. There are not a lot, but some plugins available too that are helpful, and it's nice to be inside of the same language ecosystem.
  • Is it possible to code a website using Swift?
    2 projects | /r/web_design | 24 Oct 2022
    There is a SSG that uses Swift: https://github.com/JohnSundell/Publish
  • Ask HN: Share Your Personal Site
    87 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 6 Apr 2022
    I made https://will.institute/ as a place to post stuff after bailing on most social media, the existing content was migrated over from my old Instagram account.

    Static site built in Swift with Publish: https://github.com/JohnSundell/Publish

    Since I got out of the habit of posting anything on Instagram for a couple years I haven’t really gotten back into it for my own site, but one of these days I’ll put some new pictures up!

  • Swift.org Website is Now Open Source
    2 projects | /r/swift | 16 Mar 2022
    The best static site generator in Swift is Publish, but the Swift.org website is much older than that project.
  • I created a blog template that uses Github as the CMS, so your blog can be version controlled and written with the same workflow as you write your code. What do you think?
    2 projects | /r/webdev | 4 Feb 2022
    Currently working on something similar, but in Swift, with Publish. Still a long way off since my css skills leave a lot to be desired, lol
  • Just a simple coding question
    4 projects | /r/SwiftUI | 31 Dec 2021
    If a static website works for you, you can use Publish library by John Sundell.
  • Swift for WEB???
    1 project | /r/iOSProgramming | 22 Dec 2021
  • Apple’s use of Swift and SwiftUI in iOS 15
    7 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 19 Dec 2021
    "There are dozens of us" but seriously, there is some interest from users but most projects done by companies have been abandoned, SwiftUI feels almost like a language divergence, which is frustrating. I'll list what I know about but it's by no means comprehensive.

    The good news is that server side on Linux is still working well, Vapor 4 is solid, growing and looks like it has a bright future and Perfect is still going too, though Perfect seems disjointed from the main community. IBM's Kitura and involvement with Swift is over though. Server side seems like it's best future right now, since it's more performant than Javascript and uses less cycles, which can have a lot of cost benefits.

    Static site generation looks good too, Publish by John Sundell being the most famous (https://github.com/JohnSundell/Publish) but a lot of others have started springing up lately.

    "Swift for Tensorflow" by Google has been shut down. Though that was mostly Google giving advice on how to evolve Swift to work better for ML. It's a shame too, since it felt like Fast.Ai was adopting it and starting to teach it at one point, so the shutdown felt a bit premature, but this is Google after all, shutting things down is what they do.

    Swift 5.0+ seems to have stabilized the language quite a bit too(ABI Stability and other things), which is a good thing, as hopefully the tutorials/docs from now on should remain more consistent. The built in package manager "Swift Package Manager" seems to be working better too, though there are still a lot of complaints/missing features, but on the whole I like it.

    Swift on Linux seems to be officially supported by more flavors of Linux than it used to be. Meanwhile Swift on Windows works right now but I wouldn't use it in production yet, it throws errors that are the sort that if you ask anyone they will answer "that's normal, ignore that". Some have even gotten modern Swift to run on older MacOS's leveraging LLVM.

    Swift WASM seems to have had a big update with Swift 5.4 https://forums.swift.org/t/swiftwasm-5-4-0-has-been-released... though I've not yet tried it having given up on Swift WASM about a year ago.

    Youtuber Stega's Gate(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBXFkK2B4w9856wBJfCGufg) is building a cross platform game engine in swift.

    IntelliJ has a decent alternative to Xcode now too, using Clion with an app made by them(though it's still not as integrated as Xcode, nothing would be).

    Getting it to run on android is technically possible, but the workaround it too much, but that's mostly on Google actually, since the support for writing things in C for Android is so depreciated it's a joke.

    The Docs are still terrible though, have been to my knowledge since 3.0 became outdated. That said the official books are alright and there are tutorial communities that are pretty good too, but it's shameful that the docs should be that useless.

    So yeah, Swift is nearly viable for non Mac things, but there aren't much for libraries outside of backend. Some are tinkering and making cool stuff, but at times it's difficult when even the non app related programming tutorials for those are like "let's do it on MacOS using Xcode".All of that said, it's my favorite language, I want it to have a community similar to Rust's but I don't think Apple supports it the right way for that happen, they seem ok with it staying inside their ecosystem, like they are ok if the community does stuff outside of it, but they aren't helping it or encouraging it, is the general feeling. Ironically I was recommended to Swift initially because of the community that it had at the time, the caveat being "if you want to make apps for Apple's ecosystem", which isn't terrible, but it's not what I want. I'll probably give up on it if it doesn't change in the next year or so and go all in on Rust is likely what will happen, but again it's a shame.

winter

Posts with mentions or reviews of winter. We have used some of these posts to build our list of alternatives and similar projects. The last one was on 2022-12-28.
  • best php-based cms/tech choice
    16 projects | /r/PHP | 28 Dec 2022
    Beside Symfony there is Laravel Framework , I will not go into deep difference between this frameworks as it really is just taste of what your team likes more (active record vs datamapper, facade/helpers vs dependency injection, blade vs twig, ...), as already mention above this kind of CMS make sense if Website is just one part of your application and you have to build more then just a simple digital business card / website. In Laravel world there are CMS like October CMS / Winter CMS, which target the same providing a CMS based on the Full Stack Larave framework and give you all features of that framework. Another already mention CMS in Laravel world is Statmatic.
  • Do you make your own CMS?
    4 projects | /r/webdev | 27 Oct 2022
    Chances are a lightweight CMS already exists. Winter CMS is one such option.
  • Would my site run faster if I abandoned Wordpress and 'rewrote it from scratch'?
    6 projects | /r/webdev | 15 Aug 2022
    Or Winter CMS (https://wintercms.com/) ;)
  • Ask HN: What CMS are you using in 2022?
    11 projects | news.ycombinator.com | 11 Jul 2022
    As someone who dabbled in PHP but is mostly a self-taught JS hobbyist dev, I have been using and loving Directus (https://directus.io) since around the time they switched to Node. Development velocity is exceptional with new features released every couple of weeks and bugfixes/enhancements even more frequent, the community and core team is fantastic, and I like the fact that if I ever decide to switch to another CMS for some reason, there's no real import/export process, I just delete the directus_tables in my database, and done.

    Pocketbase (https://pocketbase.io/) piqued my interest after seeing it here and on ProductHunt, but I don't think it would be the right call for a client before it hits a stable release.

    I also very much enjoyed OctoberCMS (although it has its quirks), but there was a fairly acrimonious split in the community there, and OctoberCMS is no longer open source, and I haven't used the fork (WinterCMS: https://wintercms.com/)

    I enjoyed using Apostrophe (https://apostrophecms.com/) for a while, but ultimately I felt like I was doing a lot of stuff in a way that didn't come naturally to me, and although Mongo seems a logical choice when you look at Apostrophe's page model, it worried me a bit that the data would not be easy to move if I ever wanted to.

  • Any suggestions for a "client-oriented" CMS? More info into the post.
    4 projects | /r/laravel | 8 Jul 2022
    I'm biased, but it might be worth taking a look at Winter CMS. It's built on Laravel, so you get everything you would with Laravel but it also has some pretty powerful features on top of what you get out of the box with Laravel. Its plugin system and extensibility is also second to none. It's different from a few of the other options though in that you don't add it to an existing project, you build your projects from the start in it.
  • What are the weirdest CMS you've seen used to host content?
    6 projects | /r/web_design | 12 May 2022
    Winter CMS is an open source fork of OctoberCMS. They've just put Laravel 9 support in place as well.
  • Is there a best framework or software to develop websites on for the future?
    1 project | /r/webdev | 29 Mar 2022
    If you're looking at October I'd give Winter a look too (https://wintercms.com), October is no longer open source and Winter is the open source fork of October. (Disclaimer: I'm the lead maintainer for Winter CMS)
  • Looking for "Wordpress" alternative....
    8 projects | /r/webdev | 29 Mar 2022
    Winter CMS? Laravel based and very developer friendly! https://wintercms.com/
  • Modern php cms or ssg
    1 project | /r/PHP | 21 Mar 2022
    If you're thinking of using Bolt but would also like to have access to the power of Laravel, I'd recommend taking a look at Winter CMS (open source fork of October CMS, built on Laravel / Symfony): https://wintercms.com
  • Wordpress is horrible, and i hate it!
    1 project | /r/Wordpress | 21 Feb 2022
    Have you ever looked at Winter CMS? https://wintercms.com it's a CMS built on Laravel that's super easy to customize and add your exact needs to.

What are some alternatives?

When comparing Publish and winter you can also consider the following projects:

Pelican - Static site generator that supports Markdown and reST syntax. Powered by Python.

october - Self-hosted CMS platform based on the Laravel PHP Framework.

Nikola - A static website and blog generator

flutter-client - Invoice Ninja: Desktop/mobile admin portal built with Flutter

Strapi - 🚀 Strapi is the leading open-source headless CMS. It’s 100% JavaScript/TypeScript, fully customizable and developer-first.

Vapor - 💧 A server-side Swift HTTP web framework.

gutenberg - A fast static site generator in a single binary with everything built-in. https://www.getzola.org

docc2html - A static site generator for DocC documentation archives

Grav - Modern, Crazy Fast, Ridiculously Easy and Amazingly Powerful Flat-File CMS powered by PHP, Markdown, Twig, and Symfony

Unwrap - Learn Swift interactively on your iPhone.

wn-builder-plugin - GUI for building plugins in Winter CMS