Nim VS cryptography

22. Nim - $80,000

I think the right answer to your question would be NimLang[0]. In reality, if you're seeking to use this in any enterprise context, you'd most likely want to select the subset of C++ that makes sense for you or just use C#.

[0]https://nim-lang.org/

I don't think it's a rust-inspired language, but since it has strong typing and compiles to javascript, did you give a look at nim [0] ?

For what it takes, I find the language very expressive without the verbosity in rust that reminds me java. And it is also very flexible.

[0] : https://nim-lang.org/

I see a valid cert for https://nim-lang.org/

FYI, on the front page, https://nim-lang.org, in large type you have this:

> Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula.

You better off with using a compiled language.

If you interested in a language that's compiled, fast, but as easy and pleasant as Python - I'd recommend you take a look at [Nim](https://nim-lang.org).

And to prove what Nim's capable of - here's a cool repo with 100+ cli apps someone wrote in Nim: [c-blake/bu](https://github.com/c-blake/bu)

Chapel has at least several full-time developers at Cray/HPE and (I think) the US national labs, and has had some for almost two decades. That's much more than $100k.

Chapel is also just one of many other projects broadly interested in developing new programming languages for "high performance" programming. Out of that large field, Chapel is not especially related to the specific ideas or design goals of Mojo. Much more related are things like Codon (https://exaloop.io), and the metaprogramming models in Terra (https://terralang.org), Nim (https://nim-lang.org), and Zig (https://ziglang.org).

But Chapel is great! It has a lot of good ideas, especially for distributed-memory programming, which is its historical focus. It is more related to Legion (https://legion.stanford.edu, https://regent-lang.org), parallel & distributed Fortran, ZPL, etc.

Congratulations to the authors, this was a feature that was dearly missing from pyca/cryptography. It took a long time to get right.

For the history: https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/issues/2381

Some context:

- The cryptography dependency used by the current release of mitmproxy has a CVE related to an OpenSSL vulnerability (https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/security/advisories/GHS...)

- The main branch of mitmproxy has already upgraded to the latest version of the cryptography package

- The author of the package does not believe the CVE impacts users of mitmproxy so a release including this commit has not been made

Also you'll use https://github.com/pyca/cryptography

first, I did see a correlation between an endpoint being heavily hit in a given time window, and an increase of memory usage that didn't went down afterwards. The endpoint didn't do much so I went through every instruction - is a global variable appended indefinitely ? Is a cache decorator growing without a limit set ? Do I use a 3rd party that has a known issue ? Turns out, it was using cryptography, so I looked up known issues. Saw an issue about a leak when using load_pem_x509_certificate https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/issues/4833 - which I used ! I could fortunately just upgrade the library

Après le kerfuffle du paquet de cryptographie cette semaine (https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/issues/5771), J’ai passé en revue l’état des outils de gestion des dépendances en Python.

> A big problem with Rust, long-term, is that the kind of programs that really need it are somewhat out of today's mainstream. It's not that useful for webcrap. It's not that useful for phone apps. The AI people use Jupyter notebooks and Python to drive code on GPUs.

One thing this is missing is that Rust is useful for libraries callable by many different languages. You may or may not want to use it to build an actual Web app (I personally think it's a solid choice, but reasonable people can disagree). But for building, say, the Python cryptography library [1], which is used as a part of "webcrap" and Jupyter notebooks, Rust is clearly an excellent option. Nobody is going to build core Python infrastructure in Go or Node, and there will always be a need for plumbing libraries.

[1]: https://github.com/pyca/cryptography

Also, I see more and more examples where rust gets included in different technologies using FFI. Ie for python https://github.com/pyca/cryptography for security/performance critical pieces.

> I am curious. Could you give some more context?

Probably talking about this: https://github.com/pyca/cryptography/issues/5771

You will be hard pressed to find a cryptography library that doesn't depend on openssl. Fortunately openssl bindings can be installed on Windows. One of the more popular libraries for python is cryptography, but it does depend on libssl.