MNN VS tensorflow

There are a ton of mobile deployment options that support PyTorch+TF models. It's hard to argue TFLite is the best.

https://github.com/alibaba/MNN

Right but that's not an inherent GPU determinism issue. It's a software issue.

https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/3103#issueco... is correct that it's not necessary, it's a choice.

Your line of reasoning appears to be "GPUs are inherently non-deterministic don't be quick to judge someone's code" which as far as I can tell is dead wrong.

Admittedly there are some cases and instructions that may result in non-determinism but they are inherently necessary. The author should thinking carefully before introducing non-determinism. There are many scenarios where it is irrelevant, but ultimately the issue we are discussing here isn't the GPU's fault.

and things like y = layers.ELU()(y) work as expected. I wanted to see a list of the available layers so I went to the Tensorflow GitHub repository and to the keras directory. There's a warning in that directory that says:

You can use Tensorflow's deep learning API for this.

This is indeed the bread-and-butter, but there is use of all sorts of standard linear algebra algorithms. You can check various xla-related (accelerated linear algebra) folders in tensorflow or torch folders in pytorch to see the list of what is used [1],[2]

[1] https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/tree/8d9b35f442045b...

[2] https://github.com/pytorch/pytorch/blob/6e3e3dd477e0fb9768ee...

2. TensorFlow Developed by the Google Brain team, TensorFlow is a powerful open-source machine learning framework that’s perfect for deep learning and neural network projects. With TensorFlow, you can build and train complex models using an intuitive and flexible API, making it an essential tool for any data scientist looking to delve into deep learning.

I found the official Tensorflow V1 code from a Github branch here (https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/r0.7/tensorflow/models/rnn/ptb/ptb_word_lm.py). All code necessary to run that file is in the /ptb folder (except data).

In their report they show the 10 projects with the biggest number of contributors. The first one is microsoft/vscode with 19.8K contributors in 2022 and the 10th place is tensorflow/tensorflow with 4.4K contributors. That's really nice, but my guess is that most repositories have very few contributors.

TensorFlow - This one needs no introduction. It’s widely-used and it has several tools and community resources for training and deploying ML/DL models. This one is JS based and I’m not too familiar with JS except that I know a lot of people use it for web development. What I like about it is that it’s used for speech and image recognition. And one of my favorites are text summarization.

If you mean StableHLO, then it has an MLIR dialect: https://github.com/openxla/stablehlo/blob/main/stablehlo/dia....

In the StableHLO spec, we are talking about this in more abstract terms - "StableHLO opset" - to be able to unambiguously reason about the semantics of StableHLO programs. However, in practice the StableHLO dialect is the primary implementation of the opset at the moment.

I wrote "primary implementation" because e.g. there is also ongoing work on adding StableHLO support to the TFLite flatbuffer schema: https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/blob/master/tensorf.... Having an abstract notion of the StableHLO opset enables us to have a source of truth that all the implementations correspond to.