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366 | 81 | |
7,373 | 5,954 | |
1.0% | 0.9% | |
9.8 | 9.7 | |
5 days ago | 6 days ago | |
Java | Haxe | |
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FrameworkBenchmarks
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Why choose async/await over threads?
Eh. Async and to a lesser extent green threads are the only solutions to slowloris HTTP attacks. I suppose your other option is to use a thread pool in your server - but then you need to but hide your web server behind nginx to keep it safe. (And it is safe because uses async IO).
Async is also usually wildly faster for networked services than blocking IO + thread pools. Look at some of the winners of the techempower benchmarks. All of the top results use some form of non blocking IO. (Though a few honourable mentions use go - with presumably a green thread per request):
https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/
I’ve also never seen Python or Ruby get anywhere near the performance of nodejs (or C#) as a web server. A lot of the difference is probably how well tuned v8 and .net are, but I’m sure the async-everywhere nature of javascript makes a huge difference.
Neat. Thanks for sharing!
Interestingly, may-minihttp is faring very well in the TechEmpower benchmark [1], for whatever those benchmarks are worth. The code is also surprisingly straightforward [2].
[1] https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/
[2] https://github.com/TechEmpower/FrameworkBenchmarks/blob/mast...
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Ntex: Powerful, pragmatic, fast framework for composable networking services
ntex was formed after a schism in actix-web and Rust safety/unsafety, with ntex allowing more unsafe code for better performance.
ntex is at the top of the TechEmpower benchmarks, although those benchmarks are not apples-to-apples since each uses its own tricks: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#hw=ph&test=fortune&s...
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A decent VS Code and Ruby on Rails setup
Ruby is slow. Very slow. How much you may ask? https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#hw=ph&test=fortune&s... fastest Ruby entry is at 272th place. Sure, top entries tend to have questionable benchmark-golfing implementations, but it gives you a good primer on the overhead imposed by Ruby.
It is also not early 00s anymore, when you pick an interpreted language, you are not getting "better productivity and tooling". In fact, most interpreted languages lag behind other major languages significantly in the form of JS/TS, Python and Ruby suffering from different woes when it comes to package management and publishing. I would say only TS/JS manages to stand apart with being tolerable, and Python sometimes too by a virtue of its popularity and the amount of information out there whenever you need to troubleshoot.
If you liked Go but felt it being a too verbose to your liking, give .NET a try. I am advocating for it here on HN mostly for fun but it is, in fact, highly underappreciated, considered unsexy and boring while it's anything but after a complete change of trajectory in the last 3-5 years. It is actually the* stack people secretly want but simply don't know about because it is bundled together with Java in the public perception.
*productive CLI tooling, high performance, works well in a really wide range of workloads from low to high level, by far the best ORM across all languages and back-end framework that is easier to work with than Node.JS while consuming 0.1x resources
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Ruby 3.3
RoR and whatever C++ based web backend there is count as a valid comparison in my book. But comparing the languages itself is maybe a bit off.
On a side note, you can actually compare their performance here if you’re really curious. But take it with a grain of salt since these are synthetic benchmarks.
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API: Go, .NET, Rust
Most benchmarks you'll find essentially have someone's thumb on the scale (intentionally or unintentionally). Most people won't know the different languages well enough to create comparable implementations and if you let different people create the implementations, cheating happens. The TechEmpower benchmarks aren't bad, but many implementations put their thumb on the scale (https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks). For example, a lot of the Go implementations avoid the GC by pre-allocating/reusing structs or allocate arrays knowing how big they need to be in advance (despite that being against the rules). At some point, it becomes "how many features have you turned off." Some Go http routers (like fasthttp and those built off it like Atreugo and Fiber) aren't actually correct and a lot of people in the Go community discourage their use, but they certainly top the benchmarks. Gin and Echo are usually the ones that are well-respected in the Go community.
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Rage: Fast web framework compatible with Rails
TechEmpower has a few different classes of benchmark. https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/
Off the top of my head:
- json serialization
- fetching random objects from an actual mysql/psql database
- cached queries
- performing mutations / data updates
writing "hello world" as a response is naturally going to do 75k per second
There is certainly a lot of speculation in Techempower benchmarks and top entries can utilize questionable techniques like simply writing a byte array literal to output stream instead of constructing a response, or (in the past) DB query coalescing to work around inherent limitations of the DB in case of Fortunes or DB quries.
And yet, the fastest Ruby entry is at 274th place while Rails is at 427th.
https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#hw=ph&test=fortune&s...
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Node.js – v20.8.1
oh what machine? with how many workers? doing what?
search for "node" on this page: https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r21
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Strong typing, a hill I'm willing to die on
JustJS would like a word https://www.techempower.com/benchmarks/#section=data-r20&tes...
haxe
- Ask HN: Does anyone here use Haxe?
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Ask HN: What are some unpopular technologies you wish people knew more about?
The Haxe programming language (https://haxe.org/). It's insane how unpopular this is compared to its value.
"Haxe can build cross-platform applications targeting JavaScript, C++, C#, Java, JVM, Python, Lua, PHP, Flash, and allows access to each platform's native capabilities. Haxe has its own VMs (HashLink and NekoVM) but can also run in interpreted mode."
It's mostly popular in game dev circles, and is used by: Nortgard, Dead Cells, Papers Please, ... .
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One Game, by One Man, on Six Platforms: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
For those interested in cross platform game development, don't forget https://haxe.org/! The usefulness / popularity ratio is very high on this one :).
- Flash Museum – explore more than 130k flash games and animations
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TC39 Proposal: Types as Comments
I really enjoyed programming in AS3, and https://haxe.org/ was really helpful at the time to make development easier.
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Unexpected Update 2.1.2
The game was written in Haxe (the language) and OpenFL (the engine).
- Writing an OS in Rust to run on RISC-V
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Haxe-neovim a new toolchain to build NeoVim plugins
Hello, fellow NeoVim enthusiasts! Today, I'm excited to introduce a new toolchain for building neovim plugins using Haxe. Haxe is a statically typed language that is known for its safety and efficiency, making it a great choice for building complex applications.
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Ask HN: I just want to have fun programming again
Seems like Haxe (https://haxe.org/) might be fun for you.
Per others, though, perhaps it's the motivation that's required. Do you want to write games?
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Every night
I mean they did (and still do?) intend to bootstrap it. Last I remember they were deciding on whether it should use an OCaml target or HVM. But sadly there really hasn't been much development going on for Haxe since it's written in OCaml which makes it more disappointing work hasn't been done toward this. https://github.com/HaxeFoundation/haxe/issues/6843
What are some alternatives?
Nim - Nim is a statically typed compiled systems programming language. It combines successful concepts from mature languages like Python, Ada and Modula. Its design focuses on efficiency, expressiveness, and elegance (in that order of priority).
zio-http - A next-generation Scala framework for building scalable, correct, and efficient HTTP clients and servers
django-ninja - 💨 Fast, Async-ready, Openapi, type hints based framework for building APIs
drogon - Drogon: A C++14/17 based HTTP web application framework running on Linux/macOS/Unix/Windows [Moved to: https://github.com/drogonframework/drogon]
LiteNetLib - Lite reliable UDP library for Mono and .NET
C++ REST SDK - The C++ REST SDK is a Microsoft project for cloud-based client-server communication in native code using a modern asynchronous C++ API design. This project aims to help C++ developers connect to and interact with services.
eso-light-attack-weave - This is a macro for the game Elder Scrolls Online
SQLBoiler - Generate a Go ORM tailored to your database schema.
Laravel - The Laravel Framework.
CoreWCF - Main repository for the Core WCF project
Spiral Framework - High-Performance PHP Framework
web-frameworks - Which is the fastest web framework?