FluidFramework VS rich

Fluid Framework - Microsoft's collaborative development platform

Has anyone tried Microsoft's fluid framework for collaborative editing?

https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework

https://fluidframework.com/

Have you seen FluidFramework? It's open source (MIT): https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework

I think the first product they're building on it is Loop: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-introduces-loop-a-ne...

Full disclosure I work at MSFT and on the fluid framework.

If you are interested in this you may also be interested in the fluid framework, https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework

We use websockets and solve a lot of the state management problem called out here by keeping very little state on the server itself. The primary thing on server is a monotonically increasing integer we use to stamp messages, this gives us total order broadcast which we then build upon: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_broadcast

Here are some code pointers if you want to take a look:

The map package is a decent place to look for how we leverage total order broadcast to keep clients in sync in our distributed data structures:

(Disclosure: Work at Microsoft, but I work in Azure and some open source stuff, not on or directly with Fluid/Office/etc.)

That's just a trademark clause for Microsoft logos and brands. The Fluid Framework itself is [MIT licensed](https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework/blob/main/LICENS...) and doesn't require exposing any of those logos/brands when you use it, so the framework itself is fairly open for usage.

I think the main thing that would slow down adoption for Fluid is that the only "production" backend is an Azure service, which isn't part of the open source Fluid Framework. [Other open source backends](https://fluidframework.com/docs/deployment/service-options/) aren't recommended for productions. Until there are some open source ones, I'd assume adoption will be limited to folks in the Azure ecosystem.

Within the context of the Microsoft-verse, Fluid Framework (https://fluidframework.com) is supposed to be solving similar problems in web apps, although I haven't personally played with it.

rich is so feature-packed that it might even feel like 'overkill' for very simple tasks. However, this extensive capability means you can do almost anything you can imagine with terminal styling and layout.

Ever wanted a clean way to adjust your external monitor's brightness and contrast from the command line? Let's build a simple yet beautiful Python CLI tool named monitor using the power of ddcutil and rich!

rich: Enhances the command-line interface with rich text formatting.

2.Rich Rich Rich is a modern Python library designed for rich text and beautiful formatting in the terminal. While Rich is often used for rendering formatted logs or terminal output, it also includes a TUI toolkit for building full-fledged interactive applications.

Where to check it out: https://github.com/Textualize/rich

> Personally I found Textual a little weird to use, but better than ncurses.

Out of curiosity, have you looked at it's sibling project "rich"?

https://github.com/Textualize/rich

Seems like it provides a TUI toolkit as well, and it looks a bit less weird than the approach Textual uses.

Was thinking of trying it out with a side project recently, but got pulled onto some other stuff instead so haven't yet started. Nor made the choice between them. ;)

I recently used the rich library to print tables in terminal.

https://github.com/Textualize/rich

Right! I usually use rich's print [1] for this kind of thing too, which I chose after testing a few other libraries that do pretty printing.

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1: https://github.com/Textualize/rich?tab=readme-ov-file#rich-p...

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