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MIT License | Apache License 2.0 |
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FluidFramework
- FluidFramework: Build distributed, real-time collaborative web applications
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Ask HN: What Are You Working on This Year?
Have you seen FluidFramework? It's open source (MIT): https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework
I think the first product they're building on it is Loop: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-introduces-loop-a-ne...
- Ask HN: Apps that are built with Git as the back end?
- Realtime: Multiplayer Edition
- Fluid Framework: Data Sync Reimagined
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Woe be onto you for using a WebSocket
Full disclosure I work at MSFT and on the fluid framework.
If you are interested in this you may also be interested in the fluid framework, https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework
We use websockets and solve a lot of the state management problem called out here by keeping very little state on the server itself. The primary thing on server is a monotonically increasing integer we use to stamp messages, this gives us total order broadcast which we then build upon: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_broadcast
Here are some code pointers if you want to take a look:
The map package is a decent place to look for how we leverage total order broadcast to keep clients in sync in our distributed data structures:
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Microsoft Launches Google Wave
(Disclosure: Work at Microsoft, but I work in Azure and some open source stuff, not on or directly with Fluid/Office/etc.)
That's just a trademark clause for Microsoft logos and brands. The Fluid Framework itself is [MIT licensed](https://github.com/microsoft/FluidFramework/blob/main/LICENS...) and doesn't require exposing any of those logos/brands when you use it, so the framework itself is fairly open for usage.
I think the main thing that would slow down adoption for Fluid is that the only "production" backend is an Azure service, which isn't part of the open source Fluid Framework. [Other open source backends](https://fluidframework.com/docs/deployment/service-options/) aren't recommended for productions. Until there are some open source ones, I'd assume adoption will be limited to folks in the Azure ecosystem.
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The Lost Apps of the 80s
Within the context of the Microsoft-verse, Fluid Framework (https://fluidframework.com) is supposed to be solving similar problems in web apps, although I haven't personally played with it.
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A couple of questions about dotnet from a Java developer :)
Microsoft recently open sourced fluid framework. It is a distributed, consensus based, real time collaboration framework written in typescript. Fluid would keep your clients synced up and your server code would only have to handle when someone hits submit. Fluid Framework
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Fluid Framework discovery
The official documentation and the github repository seem clear.
Centrifugo
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WebSockets vs. Server-Sent-Events vs. Long-Polling vs. WebRTC vs. WebTransport
Hello, I am author of https://github.com/centrifugal/centrifugo. Our users can choose from WebSocket, EventSource, WebTransport (experimental stabilize in the future). WebRTC is out of scope as the main purpose is central server based real-time json/binary messaging, and WebRTC makes things much more complex since it shines for peer-to-peer and rich media communications.
What I'd like to add is that Centrifugo also supports HTTP-streaming – not mentioned by the OP – but this is a transport which has advantages over Eventsource - like possibility to send POST body on initial request from web browser (with SSE you can not), it supports binary, and with Readable Streams browser API it's widely supported by modern browsers.
Another thing I'd like to mention about Centrifugo - it supports bidirectional WebSocket fallbacks with EventSource and HTTP-streaming, and does this without sticky sessions requirement. I guess nobody else have this at this point. See https://centrifugal.dev/blog/2022/07/19/centrifugo-v4-releas.... Which solves one more practical concern. Sticky sessions is an optimization in Centrifugo case, not a requirement.
If you are interested in topic, we also have a post about WebSocket scalability - https://centrifugal.dev/blog/2020/11/12/scaling-websocket - it covers some design decisions made in Centrifugo.
- Centrifugo v5.1.0 released, with new powers for real-time messaging tasks, now with proxy GRPC subscription streams – similar to WebSocketd but over the network
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Integrating websockets into my current app
Check out https://github.com/centrifugal/centrifugo - it was initially designed to be a standalone language-agnostic real-time messaging server. So it may be used with Django without radical change in the existing application and using ASGI. It can also provide a much better performance if you care about it.
- Millions of Active WebSockets with Node.js
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Show HN: DriftDB is an open source WebSocket back end for real-time apps
https://github.com/centrifugal/centrifugo
It's a complete solution, including server, admin panel and client library.
We're an European company and use OVH, Hetzner and others.
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Laravel Websockets vs Soketi vs Laravel Echo Server
Hello! Theoretically you can take a look at https://github.com/centrifugal/centrifugo - which is a standalone self-hosted real-time messaging server. It does not have native support for Laravel and not compatible with Pusher protocol, though integrating with any backend system, including Laravel: see the blog post https://centrifugal.dev/blog/2021/12/14/laravel-multi-room-chat-tutorial, also has some helper packages:
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Is Python a good option to implement Websockets?
Hello, it's also possible to design an app in a way that its core will be built with Python, but WebSocket part delegated to something external and efficient like https://github.com/centrifugal/centrifugo – the benefit of the approach is that application business logic is completely decoupled from the real-time transport layer. This may lead to a scalable design with graceful degradation. I think this is especially useful when you already have backend built with Django and need to handle millions of concurrent connections.
- Centrifugo – real-time messaging server (WebSocket, etc.) which scales well and integrates with any backend. SDKs for browser and mobile development included
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What is the coolest Go open source projects you have seen?
Centrifugo https://centrifugal.dev/ https://github.com/centrifugal/centrifugo
- Golang updating the front-end with almost real-time events from the backend server
What are some alternatives?
SyncedStore - SyncedStore CRDT is an easy-to-use library for building live, collaborative applications that sync automatically.
Socket.io - Realtime application framework (Node.JS server)
automerge - A JSON-like data structure (a CRDT) that can be modified concurrently by different users, and merged again automatically.
NATS - Golang client for NATS, the cloud native messaging system.
Joplin - Joplin - the secure note taking and to-do app with synchronisation capabilities for Windows, macOS, Linux, Android and iOS.
Confluent Kafka Golang Client - Confluent's Apache Kafka Golang client
Command Line Parser - The best C# command line parser that brings standardized *nix getopt style, for .NET. Includes F# support
Mercure - 🪽 An open, easy, fast, reliable and battery-efficient solution for real-time communications
rsocket-java - Java implementation of RSocket
laravel-websockets - Websockets for Laravel. Done right.
crdt-event-fold - A Haskell library providing a garbage collected CRDT event accumulation datatype.
soketi - Next-gen, Pusher-compatible, open-source WebSockets server. Simple, fast, and resilient. 📣