DeepSeek-V3 VS DeepSeek-LLM

What distinguishes DeepSeek-V3 is its training efficiency—completed using only 2.664M H800 GPU hours on 14.8 trillion tokens, making it remarkably cost-effective for its size. Technical specifications are available on the GitHub page for DeepSeek-V3.

DeepSeek, known for its high-performance AI models like R1 and V3, has been a game-changer in the AI landscape. However, recent reports have highlighted issues with API instability, affecting developers and users who rely on these services. Understanding the root causes of this instability is essential for addressing and mitigating these issues.

It is not FOSS. The LLM industry has repurposed "open source" to mean "you can run the model yourself." They've released the model, but it does not meet the 'four freedoms' standard: https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3/blob/main/LICENSE...

Typically, training parts of an AI model usually meant updating the whole thing, even if some parts didn't contribute anything, which lead to a massive waste of resources. To solve this, they introduced an Auxiliary-Loss-Free (ALS) Load Balancing. The ALS Load Balancing works by introducing a bias factor to prevent overloading one chip, while under-utilizing another (Source). This resulted in only 5% of the model's parameters being trained per-token, and around 91% cheaper cost to train than GPT 4 (GPT 4 costed $63 million to train (Source) and V3 costed $5.576 million to train. (Source))

According to the official paper, DeepSeek took only $5.6 mln to train with impressive results. This is a remarkable achievement for a large language model (LLM). In comparison, OpenAI's CEO Sam Altman admitted that training OpenAI GPT-4 took over $100 mln, not saying how much more. Some AI specialists assume that the estimation of the DeepSeek training expense is underreported. Nevertheless, the hidden gem is not how much it cost to train but how drastically it improved runtime requirements.

> If the magic values are some kind of microcode or firmware, or something else that is executed in some way, then no, it is not really open source.

To my understanding, the contents of a .safetensors file is purely numerical weights - used by the model defined in MIT-licensed code[0] and described in a technical report[1]. The weights are arguably only really "executed" to the same extent kernel weights of a gaussian blur filter would be, though there is a large difference in scale and effect.

[0]: https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3/blob/main/inferen...

[1]: https://arxiv.org/html/2412.19437v1

But the cost is _definitely_ falling. For a recent example, see DeepSeek V3[1]. It's a model that's competitive with GPT-4, Claude Sonnet. But cost ~$6 Million to train.

This is ridiculously cheaper than what we had before. Inference is basically getting an 10x cheaper per year!

We're spending more because bigger models are worth the investment. But the "price per unit of [intelligence/quality]" is getting lower and _fast_.

Saying that models are getting more expensive is confusing the absolute value spent with the value for money.

- [1] https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3/tree/main

Tested and verified ont ChatGTP and DeepSeek

DeepSeek AI has just rolled out a new version of its popular model, DeepSeek V3-0324. While the official announcement downplays it as a "minor update," real-world testing suggests otherwise. Users have reported noticeable improvements in logical reasoning, programming capabilities, and problem-solving—making this upgrade feel anything but small.

DeepSeek

First off, I research for this with some help from DeepSeek. It's easier to search answers that way than Googling.

And the following Shell code with DeepSeek R1:

30 seconds demo: left-side browser with chat.deepseek.com v/s go-deepseek in right-side terminal.

You can use DeepSeek V3 and R1 for free on their official website.